Featured The Volt is no more

Just because you left the Volt did not justify leaving the Clarity out.... hehehe.

 

Missed it but a quick scan shows it would replace the Volt.

Bob Wilson

 

28-13 final

 

They just announced a Niro BEV with over 200 miles range.

I think it was a case of how much battery they could get into the car without major changes to the suspension and chassis, while minimizing cargo space loss.

Or they designed the hybrid and BEV first, and didn't want to lose more space than the BEV did. Seeing how the PHEV came out last, that might be more likely.

 

maybe something gm should have considered, especially with the volt ground up platform

 

They used the EV1 as a template, which also had a T battery shape.

 

right. i'm thinking better mpg's, lower ev range and lower cost are a more popular mix

 

November sales: 3930

Monthly Plug-In EV Sales Scorecard

I wonder if dealer clearance sales?

Bob Wilson

 

dang - looks like the plugin Pacifica has really picked up steam .... estimates roughly 50% higher sales volume over prior months. Goes to show that bargain shoppers /end of year buyers are out there looking for the deals - like Bob surmised.
Model 3 still killin' all others .... estimates are, they're working to crank out 1,000/day.
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should have been a spike in primes, based on the pricing thread november discounts...

 

Source: Monthly Plug-In EV Sales Scorecard

	2018 U.S. EV SALES	AUG	SEP	OCT	NOV	YTD TOTAL
1	Tesla Model 3*	17800	22250	17750	18650	114532
2	Toyota Prius Prime	2071	2213	2001	2312	24836
3	Tesla Model S*	2625	3750	1350	2750	22495
4	Tesla Model X*	2750	3975	1225	3200	22000
5	Chevrolet Volt*	1825	2129	1475	3930	18648
6	Chevrolet Bolt EV*	1225	1549	2075	3025	16907
7	Honda Clarity PHEV*	1495	2028	1935	1857	15424
8	Nissan LEAF	1315	1563	1234	1128	13048
9	Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid**	654	637	623	895	6349

Bob Wilson

 

If you insist on having the engine in the front, the T-shape battery is probably the best for a PHEV; it has most of the benefits of a flat, skateboard pack. Between it and the liquid cooling, the Volt lost 5 cubic feet of space to the Ioniq PEHV's 4 cu.ft. and Prime's 7.6 cu.ft.

Yeah, 25 to 30 miles of EV range is probably yields the best balance there.

But then it wouldn't have been a Volt.

We are going to have to wait, and see if GM tries another PHEV here.

There have been 'have to meet CAFE' discounts off and on all year, and then the usual end of year discounts. On top of that, there is the changes to the tax law in effect, the Volt is a cheap way to get the full $7500 without worry about charging, and GM is getting close to that 200k number.

 

Add to this, car sales are still dropping in November.
November auto sales expected to fall as Americans ditch passenger cars

 

i wish they would try another, but i would have preferred an announcement prior to the death sentence.

 

There'll likely be plenty leftovers on the GM lots for at least a couple more months ..... maybe some great end of year deals
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if only it was worth buying. why is it all the cars i'm not interested in are firesaled, and the ones i like are msrp?

 

Sounds like someone just summed up Economics 101.

 

what cars R U interested?

 

tesla, maybe the new leaf

 

Tesla's production and sales model means they can avoid the necessity of discounting. Going to have to look at used for a deal.

I thought there were some nice lease deals for the new Leaf. With their history with air cooling, lease is all I'd do. With the expansion of the Ioniq Electric, and introduction of the Kona and Niro BEVs, You will see Nissan discounting the Leaf, if they aren't already.