Gen 5 Wish List

Buttons and knobs for the Radio/CD controls, not the awful glass screen..

KEEP the CD Player - unlike some brands which are ditching them or hiding them in gloveboxes (yes VW Grrrr) - quality of music from MP3/Bluetooth is awful in comparison.

Move the C/C from the stalk which is 1) out of sight; and 2) never in the same place;

FULL-SIZE spare tyre at least as an option. It's available in Middle East and other places.

I've never used them - but everyone is talking about Apple/Android Carplay which Mazda just made available.

Decent warranty - I think TOYOTA and SUBARU are the only ones left with only 3 years warranty (here).

Decent servicing intervals - 6 month/10,000km is ridiculous (in Australia).

 

I would like to see every Prius plug in, even if it only has a2kwhr battery and a 6 amp charger.

These days the cost of equipment to do so is under $200 VAC

I would also like to see the V come back as a Prime

 

I can't see it - PRIUS is a hybrid - with 0.75kwhr battery. To put a larger battery will compromise too many things and it won't be a PRIUS or a hybrid any longer. Plus - 2kwhr won't give all that much range - unless it's packaged with the PRIME's motor assembly set-up.

With a PHEV - they really need to repackage the PRIME so it has 5 seats - that would be the car you're looking for. Or, a "v".

 

The older Prii had a 1.5kwhr nimh, about 3.5kwhrs of modern lithium will easily fit into the same form factor.

0.75kwhr is a cost and weight savings measure nothing more and you can still get a 2 with NIMH.

Having the ability to jump start a Prius and 5-7 city miles of range is nothing to sneeze at, battery costs and density keep improving so I think it all but a foregone conclusion that eventually every Prii will have a plug,
Further even with a tiny battery the plug would get some folks into HOV lanes which is apparently a huge selling point

Why fight the inevitable?

 

With both Gen 3 fives and Gen 4 touring in the fleet -- Have no problems with the 17" ..... we get great MPG on our cars. The 3's could get 60mpg when new with some drivers. Gen 4's ...it's easy. I actually like the layout of the Gen 3 better -- both inside and outside. The inside materials are nicer in the 4 .. even with our 3's being leather. We also have Lexus CT's -- The Lexus soft touch interiors are nicer and the CT has a better steering wheel. The Gen 4 ..... ugly .... no other way to describe. The alloy wheels especially ugly and why those stupid plastic inserts? I was shocked when I first saw the 4 .... really ugly car. Can't say anything bad about the mechanics -- Toyota makes a great car. The seats in the lexus are much more comfortable -- as are the workings of the seat heaters. The LED headlights in the 4 are better vs the LED in the 3's -- but they don't match the performance of our Euro vehicles. Improving the lights would be my #1 wish ... especially the fogs. I have a weekend place in the country -- good lighting is important for me ... lots of deer.

 

What year is your Gen 4? The headlights changed for 2017 and 2018 - which changed IIHS rating from P to G.

 

We have 2016 4 Touring -- The headlights are better vs the LED's in the Gen 3 fives. What did they change in 2017?
My german cars have the best lighting.

 

Let's be honest here. No Prius since gen 1 can be deemed an attractive or nice looking car. Ugly is a strong word to use for the Gen 4. Weird maybe but certainly not ugly. The previous generations can be best described as nondescript, bland and boring. The rear end is really what troubles people on the Gen 4. My brother described previous generations of Prius as new cars that looked like old cars when they were new.

What really makes people angry when they see the trip computer inside of a Prius. This thing gets over 50mpg as if that is some sort of high crime.

 

lower price, less packages, more single options, windshields that don't crack as much, beefier more common 12v, spare tire, or ready space for one, more interior color and plastic options, CarPlay, improved grille styling...

 

I'm maybe starting to "grow up", because: everything I can think of, I'm running it through the "has this got a hope in hell" filter, and so far I'm stumped. I've been "vocal" (to put it mildly) about where Toyota lost their way, various 4th gen peeves, and I have a few 3rd gen peeves as well. Oh well, an eclectic list:

1. Driver-centric dash, as opposed to putting the instruments in the center. Never could understand that. And please, a coolant temp gauge.
2. Easier maintenance: many, many things: sparkplug access, head and running light access, real jackstand support points, maybe screw-and-lock-nut valve adjustment, easier EGR access, and/or one that doesn't regularly clog, an intake manifold that doesn't turn into an oily swimming pool with PCV input.
3. An ergonomic, manual control dash. I'd definitely put this in the Hail Mary category, probably not gonna happen.
4. A spare tire on all levels, temp is fine with me, actually preferable.
5. And yeah: recoup the lost storage, again, probably not gonna happen.
6. Interior that's dumure, low-key, easy to clean, no gloss.
7. Nice looking alloy rims, no plastic, neither full covers nor inserts. Please, please, please.
8. Last but not least: stop with the wacky, over-the-top and pointless styling exercises, again: probably not gonna happen.

 

Gen 1 - unimaginative, boring looking - like most cars of the day.


Gen 4 blends with the other eccentric styles of 2018 - from Honda, Toyota, Lexus, Audi, Merc.

And much better looking than many monstrosities:

 

Have no problem with the Prius "looking like a hybrid" -- The Gen 3 looked like what it was. The Gen 4 is weird ... weird in an ugly way. It's not styled to make it a better car .... just shocked at how ugly -- looks like an ugly econobox. Toyota should style the Prius to be the best it can be from an aero point of view -- form flows function. Honestly -- I believe they sell a substantial number of them because the drivers want to be shown in a Prius. They are all over my club every weekend -- people buy them as extra cars and drive them. The layout of the Gen 3 is better -- the 4 is a better car. To be expected -- I'm sure the 5 will improve.

 

Just a short list. Agree with all these items that have been menrioned.

Definitely have to improve the windshield (windscreen) glass. Cracks, chips, and pits way too easily.
Got to change or improve the "peeling steering wheel."
Better quality seat fabric material.
A compact spare tire in ALL models.
Agree with going to 16" wheels, and/or raise the car up an inch to reduce front-end scraping.
Would like to see ALL exterior lights go to LED... Blinkers, side markers, etc.
Make the brake lights BIGGER and brighter.

 

2 more:

• Get rid of the horrible FOOT-PARK-BRAKE - it's dangerous; and
• Fix the HILL-HOLDER so it works in reverse. Reversing up a hill when someone parks close to you, with the stupid park-brake is very difficult.

 

Our daughter borrowed our Prius the other day, while I was doing various stuff on her Pilot. There's an outside change she drove the full time with parking brake on. I'm pretty sure not. Coming from the Pilot, which also has a foot brake but a lever to release, first thing she did in the driveway with the Prius, attempting to release the parking brake, was pop the hood, lol.

Yeah, the car can be too clever for the uninitiated, valet parkers, and so on.

 

Better seats. Please!!!

 

Gen4 was a bunch of concept things I and many Americans do not need:
> Highest possible MPG (keeps car small)
> A hatchback car that looks like a sporty sedan
> Less inside space to due the above priorities; spare tire optional

So give me a CUV design and cargo space back.

 

Sounds like you want the "v". Which TOYOTA didn't update like they did with PRIUS or "c". Someone here mentioned it didn't sell well enough for them and they're dropping it.

But a "v" with the Camry powertrain would be a good car - which we'll not get - the RAV instead.