Bill to remove the EV tax credit, and actually add a tax for EVs

Those of us in Indiana already pay $50 extra hybrid fee or a $150 electric fee to register our vehicles.

 

oh boy. likely won't pass

 

"Senator John Barrasso, a Republican from Wyoming, introduced the bill this week."

R-WY?

That seems less likely to be 'bought off', and more likely to be born and bred that way. No purchase required.

Remember that Wyoming has the highest per-capita carbon emissions of all the states, and by a wide margin. Extraction of carbon fuels is a huge portion of its economy.

 

In South Carolina, there is already a $30 annual surcharge for hybrids and a $60 surcharge for BEV's and plug in hybrids.

 

if they lose the credits, maybe they'll lose the debits

 

I'm pretty sure "introducing" a bill makes it official. The article gives a link with its Senate Bill number.

S. 3559

It just seems like the text hasn't made it to the web site yet. It was introduced on 6 October, read twice, and referred to the Committee on Finance.

I wonder if the text can be found in the 6 October Congressional Record.

Edit: apparently not:



-Chap

 

Doesn’t surprise me and I would have bought regardless. I’m a repeat plug-in PRIUS owner, but to be fair, subsidies are no longer needed. Free cash is nice, but I have to be honest about the program. People want to buy these cars in increasing numbers now that cars have improved look and performance. The auto landscape is no longer void of EV Vehicles.

Additionally, highway repairs are fund by the highway tax on fuel. If you don’t buy fuel, you do wear and tear on roads but don’t pay for upkeep. High mileage gas car are causing an impact too. This is why governments are shifting to auto user fees to level playing field and fund the coffers.

It is a similar situation in the solar world - Don’t buy electricity, you don’t pay for the upkeep of electrical infrastructure which is needed. Hawaii is feeling that pain and looking for a solution to that.

 

gas tax doesn't get spent on highway maintenance, and neither does hybrid tax. it's all a shamscam

 

The Democrats in Californis also introduced an increase in the gas pump tax. And an extra fee on the annual registration renewal for hybrid owners, and/or EV owners. $100? But I think there may be a repeal on November's ballot.

And bisco is correct. Our road work is something like 25 years behind schedule? Where does that tax money go? And I think Los Angeles leads the nation in air polution... or is in the top 5 cities. But supposedly we have the toughest environmental / pollution regulations. Something is just not right.

 

Make the EV tax universal for all cars and trailers and then cut the gas/diesel tax:

• provides a steady revenue for highways and bridges
• taxes trailers which burn no gas yet wear the roads
• reduces gas pump prices

Bob Wilson

 

In Wisconsin BEV sales fell over 90% after the “Prius Tax” passed increasing registration fees by 133% on affected cars.

The DMV does not yet collect the tax from all consumers do to $5,000,000 in upgrades needed to implement the tax.

Annual fees are VERY inefficient usually only half makes it past bureaucratic overhead costs.

Our state realized millions of dollars in savings every year by extending how long a drivers license is valid despite a lower yearly cost to the consumer. The number of “invalid “ drivers licenses encountered at state agencies dropped massively as well.

My belief is a total elimination of all annual fees coupled with an energy cost increase to offset the lost revenue would be most efficient. AKA the only time I should buy license plates is when I buy the car.

My EV reports energy use back to big brother, my monthly EV tax could be pegged to the state gas tax rate and added to my utility bill.

I strongly disagree with fixed fees or the belief that all cars owe the same amount for roads regardless of weight or miles which are inefficient to try to monitor let alone tax anyway.

In Wisconsin when our license fees went up roughly 50% (years ago) the police noticed a dramatic uptick in expired plates that has continued to this day.

Annual Fees always have unintended consequences

 

While my Prius v gets about 43 MPG, husband's gas fueled Nissan Versa Note gets 33. Based on the logic of taxing hybrids and plug-ins, mopeds should be paying a registration fee of $30+ a year, too.

 

That seems really low. Is your commute very short so the engine doesn't get a chance to warm up? If so, time to upgrade to a Prime.

 

This is actually a good thing.
When it makes economic sense to roll a BEV without the tax kickbacks - THEN "big oil" will have something to worry about.

Until then?
They're arguably no better than anybody else that's just fighting over subsidies......

 

I don't think it gets sent to the floor soon enough. We'll see what happens to the dynamics of congress after Nov.

 

I'm fine with the tax credit ending now that Tesla has reached the limit.
Plug in numbers are still low in comparison to the rest of the fleet, making it to soon to actually start taxing them. Then on a practical note, how will the feds collect this tax? Vehicle registration is done at the state level. Will the states be forced to collect it? Will they be reimbursed the cost of doing so?

 

Yes, lets tax those who are doing their part to reduce carbon emissions. It is not like the planet will warm up any time soon.

 

You're not a corn farmer, are you?