Coming up on 100k Miles, Recommended Services?

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  1. Jason Franciosa

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    I have a 2013 Gen 3 Prius and I am going to break 100k miles later this year. I'm currently traveling, but, will be back home where I have access to tools in December.

    What are the primary services I should do? I have not done any services to the car other than oil changes every 5-10k miles, cabin air filter, engine air filter, and tire rotations.

    From my reading I am seeing:

    1. Transmission Fluid Change (Is this difficult? Should I pay for this to be done, or, can it be safely done by myself?)
    2. EGR Pipe cleaning (Is just the pipe enough or does the whole assembly need to come off too?
    3. Inverter Coolant Change
    4. Spark Plug Change

    Anything else that should be done at the 100k miles mark? I would like this car to last me another 100k miles.

    Thank you!
     
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    check the o/m. other than that, i think you have it covered.
     
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    ALL EGR related parts, cooler is what gets clogged causing back pressure.
    The intake manifold has holes to allow the egr gas into the cylinder, those need cleaning.
    And it will probably be oily, as will the maf sensor.
    Along with the inverter cooler change you do the engine coolant change, same coolant.
    What part of Florida?
    Have you changed the air filter and a/c filter?
     
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    Ok great, Any good videos on how to do the whole EGR system? I saw the EGR Pipe video only.

    I'm in Tennessee at the moment, Fort Campbell has a DIY Mechanic shop with everything you can image, Might just go there and knock this stuff out quick as it's a lot easier than trying to do it without a full lift.

    Yes, I've changed the air filters. Main Airfilter is clean as can be and the cabin one I'll check again, but, changed it about a year ago.
     
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    1. Transaxle fluid change is about the same complexity as an oil change. The Maintenance Schedule (which is in the Warranty and Maintenance Booklet, not Owner's Manual) says nothing about this. I would recommend to have done it about 90K miles sooner, but no time like the present. I'm getting writer cramp, should bookmark some of this stuff, anyway, from earlier today:

    Throttle Response and Acceleration Problems | Page 2 | PriusChat

    2. The EGR pipe cleaning is good just to see what you're in for. If it's clogging, you really need to clean the whole thing stem to stern. @NutzAboutBolts video is invaluable for this, and watch the intake manifold too. My only comment on the EGR: if you drain a couple of quarts of coolant before starting, you will not need to clamp coolant lines. Just be careful when you lift the cooler out, there will be a small residue in a back corner. I found the bees knees for cleaning the cooler was Oxi-Clean, as strong a solution as you can mix, with hot tap water. Let it soak about an hour, then repeat, about 5 times more.

    3. Inverter coolant change is not due till about 150K miles or 15 years IIRC. Read the schedule carefully, follow the footnotes. The engine coolant is due though. Watch @NutzAboutBolts once more.

    4. Spark plugs are at 120K or 12 years IIRC?? Again, @NutzAboutBolts video, and this one's a humdinger. My only comment on the video: use the anti-seize very sparingly (or omit), and the torque spec is 15 ft/lb with dry threads, I'd guestimate 12~13 pounds with anti-seize.


    @NutzAboutBolts has video for complete EGR cleaning. All of these are linked in a sticky posting, at top of repair sub-forum.

    Snapshot of my US schedule converted to spreadsheet format:

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    @Mendel Leisk you’re like a wikipedia for priuschat maintenance/trouble shoot or something lol
     
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    As everyone has stated, the NutzAboutBolts video's are good.
    Everyone has a different way of cleaning the cooler. I used GUNK, the flammable one, the other one is useless.
    And Oven Cleaner. It doesn't have to be hot. And if that place has a pressure washer, that helps too.
    I went to the army car place in Ft. Polk decades ago. I didn't need to do a lot, but at least I didn't have to spend money on labor! :)
    It only took me about 30 minutes to clean the cooler and everything else.
    Cleaning out the cylinder head intake ports was slow, but worth the time.
     
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    He’s retired;).

    He’s got time to spare(y).
     
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    Wish I could say the same :cry::cry:
     
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    That's what I like to see! :D And that's exactly why I bought a Prius. Low maintenance, great gas mileage, and reliability.

    100,000 miles in 5 years. 20,000 miles per year? And just oil changes, filters, and tire rotations. :)


    I guess that proves the theory that the Prius likes to be driven! Congratulations.
     
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    haha this is good? I thought this was normal and getting to 200k trouble free is pretty normal for toyotas. Didn't realize this was a sign of good reliability.

    But yea, I absolutely love my Prius, very glad I purchased it.
     
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    Don't forget brakes: every 3 years or 30K miles.
     
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    Pads or flushing the lines?
     
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    This is what Toyota says, pretty terse:

    Every 5K miles or 6 months:
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    (basically hands-off look at the brakes, when the wheels are off)

    And every 30K miles or 36 months:

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    (a more in-depth inspection, requiring pulling the caliper off the rotor)

    The Repair Manual sadly does not have a nice clear section, saying step-by-step what to do. The info is all there, but mooshed together, everything from a pad thickness check to a complete caliper tear-down, with no clear explanation for the mechanics as to what's actually needed at a typical "brake inspection".

    A further issue: Toyota USA says NOTHING about brake fluid replacement interval. However Toyota Canada says tri-yearly or 30K miles (48K kms).

    My take, from years with Honda vehicles and their maintenance schedules and more concise Shop Manuals, an in-depth brake inspection should include:

    1. Pulling the caliper off the rotor, checking the pad thickness, cleaning the pads, shims and and the caliper contact points. LIghtly lube** all points of contact between pin backs, shims and caliper.
    2. Removal, cleaning and relube* of the caliper pins. Ensure the pin boots are not damaged, lube* them lightly and ensure they rotate freely in their retaining grooves. Reinstall pins.
    3. Check rotor thickness against spec, with a micrometer. If there's any report of pulsing, also check runout against spec, with a dial indicator.

    The following lubes are what I use, without any problems. They're not Toyota product, they seem to work fine:

    * Sil-Glyde Brake Lubricant (a vaseline like, transluscent gel)
    ** Permatex Anti-Seize Lubricant (silver paste)

    With the Prius there's several precautions you need to take:

    1. Disconnect 12 volt negative cable before starting. Don't use a memory saver device: you want the car to be comatose.
    2. When everything is reassembled, and especially if you've needed to push back caliper pistons, replaced pads: pump the brake pedal multiple times to take up any excess travel, and only then reconnect 12 volt battery.
    3. Pay special care to rear brake caliper piston orientation (see attachement), and ensure the rear brakes are well seated, even test drive, before using the parking brake. Verify rear brake is minimal after test drive, by raising the rear and spinning the wheels by hand.

    I've attached a Repair Manual excerpt on brakes. Again: everything is mooshed together, really a poor document, but the info is in there. Also attached is the Brake Bleed instruction (which can also be used for brake fluid replacment) without Techstream. Wathc @NutzAboutBolts video on this too, very helpful.
     
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    I've owned Toyota vehicles since 1989. I've had excellent luck with Toyota brakes. A 4X4 truck, and two Camrys.
    90% of that time I went to the same dealer for service. Would you believe I never needed new brakes? And all they did was the visual inspection and measure the pads. Those Camrys were bulletproof! 11 years driving each car. Only once was the brake fluid drained & refilled -- on the 2005.

    And now my Prius. Will my luck continue? Or will this car be the "problem child." I am just going to follow the factory Maint. Schedule. No extras. Just routine maintenance. Sell it when it reaches 10 yrs, like I did the others.

    (I don't think I ever drove enough to wear out the brake pads. Will be the same with the Prius.)
     
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    In California you're luck will probably continue. Max out your third party liability insurance though... :whistle:
     
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    Thanks for the detailed explanation. The car still has the original break pads on it and they are inspected by the dealer everytime I go there for whatever reason. They always say they are still good to go.

    I do want to flush the lines soon though as it has not been done and the car is about to break 100k miles. When I do that i'll thoroughly inspect the pads and rotors.

    This car is pretty amazing in terms of low maintenance. There's always some maintenance you can do, but, seems like it runs for a long time even with just the basics.