Tesla Stock

TSLA closed up 8.46% today.

Well played.

 

Or Better yet, drill down from the factory in California through China point them downward, drop them in and let them fall out, then use the flamethrowers to help them exit the atmosphere, and reshape them, blunt style.

 

we drive to florida every winter, round trip:

1) gas $150.

2) hotels on the road $400.

3) meals, $100.

4) tolls, $100.

5) wear and tear at 10 cents/mile $160.

6) wasted time, we're 'retired'

vs flying:

1) tickets $600.

2) to and from airport $300.

3) shipping car $800.

4) not sitting next to someone with a communicable disease: priceless.

 

When my autonomous vehicle can drive me around in a recliner or bed like Singapore Air or Emirates then I'll think about driving again. Oh, and an onboard lounge + restaurant would be nice too.

Singapore Air:


Emirates + Emirates Lounge + Bar



But back to Tesla or rather, "Elon Industries", anyone watch the rocket launch yesterday?

 

when i can take that to florida for the price of driving, i won't drive anymore.

 

It's a shame the US rail network isn't built up nicely. In Asia we take the train everywhere. You get a cabin with a double size bed, some chairs, huge panoramic windows, hot meals, flowers, newspapers, snacks, it's quite lovely. Been to some rather remote places where the nearest airport is 8 hours away by train. But an overnight ride is quite an experience.

 

that would be suite! throw our car on top and i'm in.

we wouldn't even take the train to ny.

 

Net income chart:

• Notice what happens to the stock price every time Tesla makes even a small profit.
• Musk bought:
  • Gigafactory production - machines and staff to make battery packs.
  • Fremont production - three, Model 3 production lines with the Model S/X lines.

In Q3, there were no more reports of capital or staff growth meaning that spending has slowed to a stop. Other than design teams for the trucks, roadster, and other projects, Tesla is in full-on production mode. Best of all, the lessons of design-for-production have been taught to the design teams.

Where to next, my speculations:

• pickup trucks - protected by the "chicken tax," the big three have bloated them to low-end, luxury range. Even Cadillac has a pickup. Great margins there.
• interstate trucks - big ticket items, big margins.
• refresh Model S and Model X using lesson's learned.

Bob Wilson

 

actually you need about 10x as many

 

why?

 

Fake News?
Forget the stock. Tesla's bonds are imploding
'No longer investable': One of Tesla's biggest former bulls just slashed his price target, and the stock is tumbling (TSLA) | Markets Insider


Kinda brings a new meaning to.....ah...."smoke and mirrors," huh?

This is no longer a technology problem, a money problem, or a publicity problem......it a LEADERSHIP problem.
The folks in the head-shed need to start de-watering the ship and get some EEO-friendly boss to sit in the big chair or ten years from now TSLA will have gone the way of Solyndra.....OR WORSE.....Apple.

Why not build an iPhone in the USA?

 

Well, if one got in at 250$ then out yesterday at 288$....they could get back in now for 277$, or wait and watch it drop more, great day trading stock, or of course, jump in and out every ten minutes.

I’ve been papertrading a short at 378$ made in August for 1 million shares

I would love to spend a month on the trading floor watching this stock being manipulated minute by minute by the floor workers.

 

nothing new in that article. people are just using hyperbole to manipulate the price and make money on the up and down.

 

Curious here as well to your theory.

Also, are we talking about charging stations to gas stations or charging stations to gas pumps?

 

I appreciate the 'heads up:'

Gosh darn as I read the SEC filings:

• Q4 2017
• Q1 2018
• Q2 2018
• Supporting filings

Guess I'll just have to go with my 'lying eyes' on this one. <grins>

Look, I've been a Prius owner since 2005 and well remember the claims and false accusations made in the past about us and the Toyota Prius. Tall tales that turned out to be the desperate trying to turn us back to gassers or cheating diesels. Given both articles prominently displayed Elon in an envious doobie smoke cloud, they had the opposite effect on me. Wished I'd been there!

I respect your joining PriusChat even though it is still(?) a company car. But perhaps you might understand there is a difference like the chicken and pig who went to discuss farmer Brown over a breakfast of ham and eggs. The chicken was interested but the pig was committed. <grins>

Bob Wilson

 

Yup.
I'm a chicken.

However (comma!) you don't need to be a chicken to be able to tell the difference between a good egg and a bad one.
You don't even have to crack open the shell if you know a little bit about how science works.

Folksy Anecdote:
There's certain people that you just don't mess with in the USN.
Yeoman (if you want to get paid) Storekeepers (if you operate equipment or wear uniforms) Corpsmen (if you don't want your immunization records to get lost) but most of all.....you never EVER mess with the people who cook your chow.
On submarines especially, this can get you put on the "Breakfast Club."
This is because most of the chow on black hulls is served buffet-style...EXCEPT breakfast if you want eggs, hashbrowns, etc which are made to order...and it is a very foolish person who bites the hand that makes their 'everything omelet."
So.....they use a lot of hen-berries on submarines, and surprisingly enough they last quite a while stored in bilges on submarines because all of the world's oceans are fairly cold if you go deep enough. I was also told that they were coated in a thin film of wax, which I tend to believe might have been true back when I was knocking holes in the North Atlantic.......YMMV
So......
On a 90-day patrol some of the eggs started to go bad and so one of the first thing that our cook's assistants (called "messcranks" or "cranks" for reasons that are lost to history) did every morning was to fill a very large pot or sink up with water and 'float test' the eggs.

MOST of the ones that failed this test were discarded......

The difference between Priuses c-2000 and Tesla c-2015 and beyond is that Priuses were float-tested in the marketplace.
Very little in the way of dot.gov money was expended in their development and even though Priuses were and remain very polarizing the only skin I had in the game was the fact that I was forced to drive one for at least 5 days a week.
UNLIKE fanboys or haters, I judged Goofy using a real 12-inch ruler without malice or favor for the car, if not all of their drivers.
Any club that would have me as a member.....

To be clear, I don't have any problem with dot.gov giving tax kickbacks to people who buy compliance vehicles, because this seems to be the cleanest way to incentivize technology that one perceives that is a net positive.....but Tesla isn't Toyota, and the fact that people are arguing and dodging questions about how much cheese they did or did not get on the front end of the program is enough for me to question most people's objectivity in the company.
After all, they are STILL going to have to succeed or fail in the marketplace.

AT LEAST if (some say "when") they fail THIS time we won't be subjected to all of the tired old excuses that they trotted out in the documentaries the last time (maybe,) because THIS time the EV got all of the breaks and then some.

The only thing that's piquing my curiosity on all of the EV drama this time around is why I'm seeing so many stories about their impending implosion in CNN - HARDLY a far-right republican source.

tick....tick....tick....

 

The charging time, and whether apartments, condos, etc. have access to slow charging will effect the number of required chargers.

 

That is only true in the US. Before they arrived here, each Prius sold in Japan was getting a direct subsidy equal to half the price difference between it and the Echo. There was a government hybrid incentive of some kind available there up to, and a year or two beyond, the introduction of the PiP. More were sold in Japan than in the US.

 

The 10x number might make sense if hypothetically we were already at 100% battery electric vehicles given current charging speeds.

However, I think we were surmising that the time point of discussion would be some years down the road when charging would take no longer than internal combustion engine fueling. At that point homeowners would still charge at home predominately. Newer apartments would likely have L2+ charging stations and a good number older apartments would likely be outfitted with L1+ charging abilities. That is the scenario I see likely and if so would guess we would need 50% or less commercial charging stations to replace gasoline pumps.

 

Perhaps, but there's a little bit LESS (corrected) of a difference between a Prius and an Echo than there is between a Tesla and what EVangelists call a "gasser."

Presumming that the abvove is absolutely true, would that not give the average Japanese citizen the DUTY, and not just the right to ask simple questions about stock manipulation and government subsidies as well as manufacturing quota manipulations - or does one still have to have "skin in the game"???