Model 3 current and projected production

Two, 2014 BMW i3-REx, and 2017 Prius Prime.

Bob Wilson

 

I thought those were phev’s not bev’s.

 

A rose by by any other name is just a smelly dead flower in a glass of water.

I can understand why some EV fanatic would look down their nose at a Prime, which if it were a ship would be a steamer with a small sail attached....but the i3 is a BEV with a 'range extender' which is more like a sailing vessel with a small auxiliary motor.
So....
In the nautical world there are sailing fanatics who also look down their nose at 'stink pots' or vessels that would eschew the purity of 'wind-only' propulsion, but I have met very VERY few wise sailors who would not avail themselves of the option of an iron-sail if they can afford one.....because....defication occurs.

YMMV

 

Stop that, why is it people get defensive and start lashing out at people?
No one is “looking down their noses” at others.
The nomenclature I am used to, and I believe most others are, is the following.

HV: A Hybrid Vehicle which uses a battery to assist in motive power.
PHEV: A Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle, has a larger battery and a plug to charge the batteries directly.
BEV: A Battery Electric Vehicle, which uses no gasoline and has a plug to charge the batteries.
FCEV: A Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle which converts hydrogen to electricity via a fuel cell. Typically also includes a battery.
EV: General all inclusive term which includes BEVs, PHEVs, FCEVs and with some definitions HVs.

 

Per the Prius glossary, you would be correct.
PriusChat Glossary | PriusChat
The terms are easy to mix up, context will usually make it clear.

 

My humble apologies if I stepped on anybody's toes.
I was merely pointing out that I personally consider the i3 to be primarily a BEV with an ice as a 'range extender'
I wade into discussions like these as a non BEV owner so that I CAN educate myself about them so that one day.....IF somebody ever produces a BEV that I can use myself at a price that I am willing to pay (<35K) then I will not be befuddled by all of the key words and tricky phrases....

I defend my sailing vessel analogy thusly:
i3 primary power source is electricity.
Prius/Prime primary power source in most cases is usually gasoline, although some in dense urban environs may use the battery more efficiently than others....but our differences in opinion are more about FUNCTION rather than dictionary terms.

Again.
YMMV

 

Your befuddlement will only end (and self-education begin) when your price range is reached? Sounds a bit self-centered and scapegoatish to me.

 

can't you pick up a new bolt for 25k after tax credit?

 

Hope your daughter is on the waiting list for a model 3, by the time her lease expires she may see her new Model 3. How does she like 500e. I was looking at used ones last year. You can buy them used for $10k with less then 20k miles on them.

 

quirk chevy is showing 7k off an lt, less 7.5k tax credit = $23,000.

lease for $2,500. down and $235./mo. for 36 months.

 

I hope this is not really how the front of the Y model looks like. Or people will be asking Y?

Elon Musk Confirms Tesla Model Y Debut Date

 

seems like a reasonable time line. can't wait for the final design!

 

And be prepared for a long build time.

Why is she considering an S? Thought the 3 Model is worth the wait.

 

No way I'm ever leasing.

Right now Volts are going for about 30K OTD and Bolts are few thou more at something like 32k.
This is in flyover country where gas is still less than $2.50 (I paid $2.40 this AM) and the nearest HOV lane is in Nashville.
I'll stay put for now because my current commute is about 3 miles (may soon change drastically) and my current car payments are all $0.....and I'm concentrating on making my house payment go away.

So, yeah.
For right now I'm still without skin in the game....

 

i'm staying put for now as well, but i'm currently 90% ev in the pip.

and we get another $2,500. ma tax credit, so bolt would be $20,500. here, about the same as 2017 prime was before they ran out.