California HOV lane sticker issue

Life is unfair unfortunately

 

Yikes!
You might contact State Assemblymember Richard Bloom's office to see if you have any options, or if legislative action is expected..

I am having trouble visualizing Jan-1-2019 in Ca....Ca. plug-in sales will be out the roof this year as people try to jockey for free HOV access after Jan-1?

EDIT: PS- Bloom has been the author of all the HOV change legislation last couple years

 

If you bought your car in 2017 or 2018 you will able to apply for new sticker ( different color sticker). Don't worry you will able to drive it till Jan 2022.

Here's how California's carpool (HOV-lane) stickers work now

 

That is incorrect. You will be able to re apply to get new sticker in 2019. they will be good until January 1st 2022.

 

You will have to apply January 1 2019 to get new stickers

 

Here is a good article below.
The first couple of comments address these issues, as well as the used car (PiP) questions I had. Sounds indeed like folks who *purchased and stickered* plug-ins at end of 2016 could be in trouble? As long as you purchased in 2017, I assume you are OK.

I forget when the first Primes went on sale- but Nov_2016 IIRC?

Here's how California's carpool (HOV-lane) stickers work now

 

Ouch I see almost 2400 Primes sold in Nov/Dec 2016, not all Ca. I presume a lot are Ca..

 

Makes sense to have 4 year period in California. Keeps the carpool lanes from getting too crowded.

 

But let's say you got a Prime in Dec_2016 and a HOV Decal...you only get 2 yr of HOV.

>>>Here is what I am hearing in the HybridCars.com article above, as it relates to our Ca. Prii family::

Purchased/Sticker
P2016/S2016 - you are limited to 2019 HOV eg; bought an early Pirme and stickered it in 2016
P2016/S2017 - you are good to 2022 for HOV eg; bought an early Pirme and stickered it in 2017
P2017/S2016 - we think you are good to 2022 for HOV eg; OP case of this thread
P2015 or before/never had a sticker - you can buy this used (PiP) in or out of state and get HOV sticker to 2022

Caution - This is new program so perhaps clarifications and adjustments will be made.
People are upset that small batts (eg; an old used PIP) could in theory still get HOV sticker to 2022. People are also upset that end-of-year 2016 buyers are screwed.

 

Well these programs are just like that, you have to jump on the program when the language is clear in your favor.

Raytheeagle bought a RX450h just to have the car go down a few thousand dollars the next model year. Win some, lose some....

Same thing with the rav4 hybrids.

At least the hov info is spelled out and you know what to expect

 

I agree the law does still seem "iffy" as it has not been implemented yet.
In your case, keep in the mind the Ca. car dealers have been allowed to order the HOV stickers way in advance so they can apply the sticker to the car as it arrives from the port for sales. So I do not see how the date of the sticker was ordered can be used as a disqualifcation metric for the HOV law.

I would like to advise people to go out and buy a used PiP that never had an HOV tag, and get HOV out to 2022. That seems to be allowed by the law, but perhaps it will be changed, so that is a little risky.

One thing I think I can probably say, if you have a PiP without a HOV sticker, go get one. You car possibly will gain value.

Again I suggest reaching out to Assembyman Richard Bloom's office who presumably may be considering any legislative updates to address these emerging issues.

One thing I find weird is that nobody is talking about these ramifications., I guess we are all so focused on the divisive national politics. A couple years ago we'd have had so much discussion on this.

 

It’s good to extend white/green sticker to 2022. Not sure how they are going to enforce rolling 4 years. CHP are checking different color sticker, it’s almost impossible to check expiration date if you are traveling in a highway speed.

 

According to http://www.arb.ca.gov now issuing Red Decal. Also will expire 01/01/2019. All the red, white and green decal can apply for new decal expire 1/1/2022 new application process is still pending.

 

Not *all* can qualify right? Only stickers after 2017 can be get the extension, right?