1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Featured New Toyota EV motor needs less rare-earth metal, so costs less to make

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Tideland Prius, Feb 22, 2018.

  1. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,025
    16,244
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Toyota creates new EV motor magnet that's far cheaper to produce - Autoblog
     
    RCO and pilotgrrl like this.
  2. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    27,670
    15,664
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    Even Tesla went from induction to permanent magnet motors with the Model 3 and made a significant improvement in efficiency.

    Bob Wilson
     
  3. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,455
    11,767
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    The gen2 Volt made a cut in the amount of rare earth minerals it uses for the motors over the gen1. One of the M/Gs might just use a ferrous magnet.
     
  4. austingreen

    austingreen Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    13,602
    4,136
    0
    Location:
    Austin, TX, USA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A
    Tesla really doesn't care that much about efficiency, but it is among the most efficient, because of a engineering trade off of cost versus performance. When the model S was designed rare earths were more expensive. If rare earth get too expensive, they will add more battery power and energy and switch back. 110 mpge versus 126 mpge would require a bigger more expensive, heavier, and physically larger pack though, but battery prices and physical size are falling. Good to see toyota is playing the materials versus price game, but lots of more important things for them to do. They have enough people to walk and chew gum at the same time, but management makes improvements slower than a company like tesla.
     
    RCO likes this.
  5. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,184
    50,069
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    congrats toyota!(y)
     
    RCO likes this.
  6. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    45,025
    16,244
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A