2019 Avalon Hybrid

Android is Android, for the most part. Google has only so much say in what OEMs can/can't do with the OS. It's not fully locked down like Apple.

Samsung is the biggest player in the market space, but there are Chinese manufacturers that aren't far behind: Huawei (who made the Nexus 6P, the larger of the last Nexus devices), Xiaomi, One Plus, ZTE, and others.

FWIW, Google's trying to make a go on the hardware side, having "emp-hired" all of the people at LG & HTC who worked on the Pixel 2s.

Maybe it's Google or the Chinese?

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Google already tried that once when they bought Motorola.

 

Kinda sorta. Ultimately, what they wanted was Motorola's patents and Rick Osterloh (who had been Corporate VP, Android Products at Moto 5/2007 - 6/2010)

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Right. Google wanted access to all data and algorithms including the ECU, a non-starter for Toyota.

 

Huh.
Why would any entertainment device need access to that???

 

To connect the dots and then resell the combined data to the highest bidder, not that Toyota or any other manufacturer has clean hands.

Big Brother on wheels: Why your car company may know more about you than your spouse. - The Washington Post

 

They do not need to remote control my car! Due to non-payment of CarPlay license?

 

The 2018 Avalon specs are up on Toyota's US site.
2018 Toyota Avalon MPG & Price
It's wheelbase is a smidge(fraction of an inch) shorter than the Camry's and Accord's, but it does have two to three inches on them in length.
The Accord has a larger interior; 5 cubic feet more than the Camry, and 2 more than the Avalon. It also has the larger trunk.

 

The new one is the 2019, though.

 

I am not sure which car you are referring to LOL

New Accord
New Hybrid Cars: Meet the Next-Generation 2018 Honda Accord | Honda

New Avalon
2019 Toyota Avalon | Official Toyota Avalon Site

 

New Avalon. The specs listed are for the existing Avalon.

 

Apparently they are both boasting future new models. I think the Accord is expected as a late 2018 model though.

 

Have specs been released for the 2019?

 

Attainable Premium, Actualized: All-New 2019 Toyota Avalon Beams Effortless Sophistication, Style, and Exhilaration at the 2018 North American International Auto Show | Toyota

 

As an owner of a 15 Avalon Hybrid Limited, it's a great "sleeper" car. It normally can be had at deep discounts...looking at this 19 redesign that might be about to change. I can't say enough about the car.

Awesome MPG for it's size, thousands less than it's Lexus counterpart, Toyota reliability and great "sporty" ride (which the old legion of Avalon owners don't particularly care for - as they prefer that soft as a cloud, bit less responsive ride that I think is akin to the old Caddy's my father had back in the day)

Anyway, I saw the current design I now own in a dealership when in for an oil change on my 08 Sequoia and thought it looked sharp (this was 2015)

Granted, there is/was the stigma that it's an "old man's" car (that very well may change with the '19 - that two-tone leather is sharp looking!) I wish I knew about the Avalon Hybrid along with the MPG it gets and more importantly, the heavy pricing discounts to be found on them as they just aren't that heavily purchased (at least here in the Midwest)...had that been the case I might not have bought my 2013 Prius Two instead opting for the Avalon Hybrid back in 2013..

Fast forward a couple years in late 2015 and my wife's 2 year old Hyundai Sonata encountered some transmission problems that Hyundai played games with us on - so I simply traded it for a 2015 Avalon Hybrid Limited - that dealers were clearing off the lots for the new 16's.

The car has been nothing short of fantastic. Real World driving by my wife in Eco Mode everyday of rush hour driving 85 miles round trip to downtown Chicago and back out to the far south suburbs is 40.7 MPG. Now, let's set the record straight, this car isn't a BMW when it comes to driving response. But for a big, roomy, butter smooth, luxury sport-ish ride (I sat that tongue in cheek as a past owner of multiple BMW's) with big gas savings to boot the Avalon Hybrid is a MUST on your short list. There's plenty of pickup in Normal driving mode to make most happy, the Sport mode is nice as well again providing more upfront torque and pep off the line and even in Eco mode the only knock on it is when needing to punch it to get on the expressway or make a quick pass...but a simple button push changing the driving mode solves that issue.

I still see more regular gas Avalon's on the road these days and wonder. "Why?". I know they have the V6 and get low to mid 20's in MPG...but I test drove one before buying the Hybrid; just to satisfy my curiosity, and that made my decision even easier to get a Hybrid version.

If it truly is an "old man's car", why do you care about pickup...maybe the older demographic isn't up on or comfortable with the Hybrid technology...but just simply the gas savings to be had when you realize in doing homework that these Hybrids come at a STEEP pricing discount made the decision easy to buy one.

Great car!

 

Although I don't need a big car like the Avalon, I do wonder why more people don't take advantage of the hybrid.

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I love my 2014 Avalon Limited Hybrid.

 

Thanks.

"Avalon’s various height measurements have been trimmed: overall (by 1 in. to 56.5 in.), cowl (by 1.2 in.), and rear deck (by 0.8 in.). So too have front and rear overhangs (down 0.4 in. and 1.0 in., respectively). Along with its wider front (up 0.4 in.) and rear (up 1.5 in.) tracks, width (up 0.8 in. to 72.8 in.), and wheelbase (up 2.0 in.), Avalon’s premium aura and sporty stature are further emphasized."

The wheelbase does go up by 2 inches to 113, but from the above quote about the overhangs, it appears the overall length only goes up by about a half inch. From other remarks about measurement changes, the 2019 will close the gap the 2018 has with the new Accord. Won't know by how much until we get the straight specs.

The loss of trunk space has always been a big drawback for hybrid sedan sales. Then the price for the hybrid still needs to be overcome. That gets easier as gas prices increase.