1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Is 45.8 mpg a good average?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by Fredsimm, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. Fredsimm

    Fredsimm Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    188
    117
    0
    Location:
    Tupelo MS
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    07 base model. Had it about 5 months. I have tried all the tricks. No lead foot, coasting, and cruise control 90% of the time. I stay at 45.8 mpg 99% of the time on the lie-o-meter. Driving is 70% highway and 30% city. Is this considered good, average, or poor?
     
  2. MelonPrius

    MelonPrius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2017
    829
    510
    0
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Slightly above average. Fuelly average of the '07 model is 43.6 mpg here.
     
    WilDavis and Data Daedalus like this.
  3. egg_salad

    egg_salad Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    545
    426
    18
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    I'm only on my 4th tank, but here's what I know.

    My speedo/odo reads about 3% low. When the speedometer reads 67, I am actually going 65 per my GPS. That discrepancy is figured in to my hand calculations.

    By those calculations, I have had 3 tanks at ~53mpg and 1 tank at ~47. That's slightly lower than what the MFD tells me, but it's using perceived distance traveled, not actual distance traveled.
     
  4. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    7,855
    6,655
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Pends....

    What did you get on your last car? ;)

    I'd say that 45mpg in a ten year old car is pretty stinkin good, especially with your mix of highway and city driving and cruise control use.
    If you hand fly the car and stay off the highway, you will leg it up a bit, but I'd take your current mileage to the bank and relax and enjoy the car!!
    Keep your oil level checked (book says every 1,000 miles) and familiarize yourself with the maintenance schedule, and this could EASILY be the most economical car you will ever own!

    Good Luck!
     
    WilDavis and Data Daedalus like this.
  5. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Correction: Your speedometer reads high, not low. I.e. it reads higher than actual speed.

    Beware that speedometer and odometer errors are not the same -- and deliberately so. Calibrate them separately.

    Speed error does not figure in to MPG at all, unless you are charting MPG vs MPH.

    By industry standards, and by law in some places, speedometers must not read low (from the factory with original tires), they must read true or high. Given that there must be some error, especially with old fashioned analog systems of the old era, the makers biased them high.

    By American tort law, odometers must not read high, because product liability lawyers will come after the makers for warranty fraud. BTDT on two past cars (my particular cars were fine, but the lawyers still collected a significant payday).

    Thus, today's speedometers and odometers generally don't match, but have different built-in errors.
     
    #5 fuzzy1, Nov 30, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2017
    SFO and Data Daedalus like this.
  6. egg_salad

    egg_salad Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    545
    426
    18
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    This is why math and I are not friends.

    I'm old :)

    I will take an odometer calibration run as soon as practical. thank you.
     
    fuzzy1 likes this.
  7. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I was an engineer during my working life, so had to do math by the (metric) ton.
     
  8. WilDavis

    WilDavis Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2014
    2,492
    2,154
    49
    Location:
    Top RH Corner of RH Coast on L side of The Pond
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Looks good to me! My overall (from "fuely") is ~44 (2009 Gen II) 177 fill-ups, I've owned the car since Jan 2014. I would say keep on doin' what yer doin'. :)
     
  9. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,518
    14,127
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    This is probably the biggest factor. That's assuming you're familiar with tire pressures and the other ways to save fuel. I'd say, under your driving conditions, you're about right. Not spectacular, but not bad at all.
     
  10. Fredsimm

    Fredsimm Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2017
    188
    117
    0
    Location:
    Tupelo MS
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    Thanks everyone. I just heard people boasting about staying in the low 50's. I thought that I was missing something.
     
    jerrymildred likes this.
  11. egg_salad

    egg_salad Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    545
    426
    18
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    Did that today. Odometer is spot on within a reasonable margin of error. First test the odometer read 99% of actual miles. Second test was 99.667%. I'm calling that accurate.
     
    fuzzy1 likes this.
  12. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i think so.
     
  13. frodoz737

    frodoz737 Top Wrench

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    4,297
    2,348
    33
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    That's because most Prius drivers here like to "boast" about "their" MPG trophies. Even the 3rd Gen is lucky to hit 50 "real" mpg when driven "normal". I did 61.9 mpg "indicated" once and pissed off every truck and car on the Interstate to do it. I can live with 40 something mpg because driving "normal" in other cars usually gives low 20's. So...either way it's a win...until you need a truck that is.
     
  14. egg_salad

    egg_salad Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2015
    545
    426
    18
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    I do not know. I drive the same way I always have, and hit the low 50s. Then again, I've always driven like your grandmother, and I've always exceeded EPA numbers :)
     
  15. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I.e. different than you speedometer, and in the opposite direction.

    Over a pair of I-90 sections covering most of the160-miles distance from the Columbia River to the Idaho border (beware of a major milepost 'bust' at Ritzville), my current and previous Prius were between 99.7 and 99.8%. But I haven't tracked close enough to notice differences with tire wear.
     
  16. Co0perator

    Co0perator New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2022
    8
    2
    0
    Location:
    New London CT
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I average 43-44 highway on my 2007
     
  17. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Yikes, 5 year old thread.:eek:
     
  18. Another

    Another Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2021
    1,802
    511
    0
    Location:
    Naples, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    How many miles on your battery and car?
     
  19. Chelito U

    Chelito U Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2021
    2
    3
    0
    Location:
    Sequim Washington
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I own an 07, had it for a couple of years, commute every weekday, get between 49.8 and 50.5, 49.8 in the winter, 50.5 in the summer. I use non ethanol gas, 114000 miles on the odometer, regularly get over 500 miles Per tank. When I fill my tank up, I don’t stop when the fuel handle stops, I continue very slowly and usually get a couple more gallons in. i’ve come to realize that there are two types of people that drive Prii . The one drives regularly, just like they did their other cars and these are the folks that get 44 to 45 miles to the gallon. Then there’s the other kind that puts a lot of time and energy into driving smoothly and they usually get more miles per gallon. i’ve resigned myself to being a tortoise on the road, not the hare. I used to be a hare and it got me into trouble, no I enjoy driving more now and worry less.
     
    #19 Chelito U, Nov 2, 2022
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2022
    Mendel Leisk, bisco and WilDavis like this.
  20. WilDavis

    WilDavis Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2014
    2,492
    2,154
    49
    Location:
    Top RH Corner of RH Coast on L side of The Pond
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Welcome to PriusChat - here you'll find the answers to all the questions you'll ever have about your Prius! Have you tried using fuelly.com to log your gas/miles?