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12V battery group size

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by christiandflores, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. christiandflores

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    Does anyone know the group size for the battery on the Gen 4 Prius? I've had to jumpstart mine a couple times now.

    I know the warranty is still good, but I run a dashcam while parked. So I'd rather get an upgraded battery then sticking with OEM again.
     
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    The 12 volt battery is constantly charged by the HV battery and should not require a top up unless the car has been left for more than a few weeks without running the engine. This begs the question, how are you using your car, or how far do you drive each day/week?
     
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    you should be able to find the right size by going to the make of your choice, and plugging in the car info, unless the prime is too new.
     
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    This is a Gen 4 thread.
    I would search for a 2016 Prius. I quickly searched a few and came up empty :(

    The Toyota part number appears to be 0054421171325 for about $200.
     
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    whoops!:oops:
     
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    i suppose it is in the service manual for 15 bucks. try calling a parts department.
     
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    Running an accessory when the car is parked, is asking for trouble.
     
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    When not in READY, I agree.
    Leaving the car in READY when unattended is asking for trouble not covered by insurance. :eek:
     
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    So does anybody actually know the size? Lol


    iPhone ?
     
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    Not without raising the hood & measuring. I have not seen it mentioned in Toyota's description.

    I just checked an old photo. The battery says 20HR 45Ah CCA 295A(EN)

    It looks to be 45 Amp-hours and 295 Cold Cranking Amps, if I read that correctly.

    Physical size and battery terminal size & placement are part of the battery group specification.

    Battery-Web.com - BCI Group Numbers, Dimensional Specifications, Polarity and Terminals
     
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    Most "find your car battery" sites don't list the Prius battery. I found a "DIN 44L" on a British site.
     
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    3rd gen yes, but 4th gen still early days? (n)
     
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    i would call optima and have a discussion. even though they don't list the battery, they do list the prime. maybe they can help.
     
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    I would not be surprised if the Prime used the same 12V battery.
     
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    The important part if that question was answered in his original post.

    Getting a battery with a higher capacity will likely only help a little bit. He really needs to find a different source of power for his camera.......or change his camera habits.
     
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    If you do this regularly, you maybe could install a secondary battery. I did that when I had a VW Kombi and used it camping. I had an isolator for the fridge so it ran off the secondary battery, and meant I could always start the car, and once the car was running, it re-charged the fridge battery.

    You might even be able to use a Li-ION auxilary Phone battery (or 2 or 3) - they're getting bigger and cheaper?
     
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    I’m only interested in getting a larger battery. That’s the proper solution. Let’s keep the simplicity down. As I’ve read, the 12v factory battery on the Prius is on the wimpy side. I haven’t had any issues with my other cars while parked, so I’m not going to unhardwire it. The only difference is the battery capacity. Hence the interest in battery group


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    When you are sitting in the car parked just leave it in READY mode. The 12V battery is then kept charged by the large HV battery.
     
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