Test drove Level 3 with ATP and turned down deal

fair enough, but lay off those burgers.

 

Thanks for linking that article, Bob. He says it really well. I disagree somewhat with the "annoying driving" aspect though: after 10 years of doing this I can be fairly unobtrusive about it. And I think most traffic on today's highways isn't moving as fast as the drivers think it is.

Generalizations are always dangerous. There are lots of annoying drivers on the road who are NOT hypermiling. People who slow down to look at the view, to figure out where they are going, or to fiddle with their phones. Particularly the ones who just sit there when a light turns green for them because they are preoccupied with poking at their phone (texting?).

It will probably shock you that I never test-drove the Gen 4 before buying mine. And I think I sat in it just once. I simply trusted that I liked my Gen 3, so I would like my Gen 4. And had some faith in its higher EPA ratings.

 

On the same token, having a trim level 4 with almost 4k$ of options but losing the cute LED fogs and sweet seventeen inch rims is another bad decision ?


LG-H901 ?

 

The 2016 17" rims are just another black rim with wheel covers, my 2 cents.

 

Are they really?

LG-H901 ?

 

This is how they look without the plastic:

Plastic part on 17" Touring wheel

 

Holy mother of .... LOL



LG-H901 ?

 

Anyone know why in the U.S. you seem to call them "moon roofs"?

Seems an odd name!

Are U.S. folk especially interested in looking at the moon while night driving?
Sounds risky! And as for moonbathing, well in my book it's overrated.

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News outlets just love shock headlines don't they? A single sentence taken out of context which invokes terror. However the article itself admits,

"It is still a rare event.... about one incident occurs every month"

One incident a month out of the millions of cars on the road with sunroofs. Not exactly the pandemic that the headline implies. Of course they also felt the need to warn us that:

"incidents occur in every region of the United States."

whoa now I'm really scared, I assumed it was just happening in the midwest. Thank you Captain Obvious at CNBC, that's the equivalent of informing us that tire blowouts occur in every region of the United States. Who knew?

Okay I will admit that even one sunroof failure is too many if it leads to an injury (or worse), and perhaps the trend for panoramic sunroofs isn't helping, although I haven't seen data that panoramic sunroofs have a higher rate of failure, but maybe they do. And the article also didn't mention the number of injuries, if any, caused by failed sunroofs, which I would think is even more rare. A concern yes, but not worthy of a sensational headline in my opinion.

Technically a moonroof is a type of sunroof. The original sunroofs were sliding panels (not windows) that either tilted or slid open, allowing air and sunlight into the cabin. Later versions used tinted glass instead of an opaque panel, allowing a view of the sky even when the sunroof is closed. These versions were typically referred to as moonroofs to distinguish them from the traditional version. Nowadays nearly all sunroofs contain glass, and the terms sunroof and moonroof have become pretty much interchangeable.

As for the name, I always assumed that it was because a traditional sunroof would normally be used only in daytime, just like you normally only drive with your windows down in the daytime. Whereas a glass roof can in theory be used at nighttime allowing moonlight into the car. Not that people with moonroofs actually do that but at least that was always my assumption what the name implies.

 

Wow and I thought us Yorkshiremen were tight

 

Yes, odd. Though, I live in the semi-tropics, and only once rode in a car with a SUN-roof. And ended up with mild sunburn. I was talking to a salesman who said they sell much better down south - where there isn't as much sun!!!

So, maybe MoonRoof would be a more valid description here or in the tropics. But, really, I don't see the point at all.

 

EDIT/Addition - Convertibles. Worse still.

My daughter hired a pair of OPEL Astra Convertibles as wedding cars - but they needed picking up and dropping off an hour away. I was part of the driving process for collection, and a one way trip as passenger where the driver insisted that you can't ride in a convertible with the top up had me sunburned much worse. I had a hat, but it blew off almost immediately, so I left it off.

 

ムーンルーフ&スンルーフ (moonroof & sunroof) are loan words in Japanese. Unfortunately, nothing poetic.

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Geesh that sounds like distracted driving lol.