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2018 release date?

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by davidj08, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. davidj08

    davidj08 Junior Member

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    Has release date for 2018 Prius been announced? I have read new model will debut at L.A. Auto Show Dec 1st.
     
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    I didn't find anything after a Google search. Would be interested since I'm going to the LA auto show but I hate when a new version of my car debuts.:( 2018 is way too soon for a refresh
     
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    Where did you read that? Were they specifically talking about a Prius or some unknown Toyota?

    The next big opportunity will be the Tokyo Auto Show at the end of this month but there have been no hints of any Prius intro for that show.
     
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    Thanks for commentary. Your thought about LA Auto Show is most interesting for 2 reasons. When you go into Auto Show website (LAautoshow.com) and look at cars on display, one of the Toyota's is a "2018 Prius Liftback." It looks exactly like 2017, at least externally. Also, Toyota is going to introduce a new model there. Nothing yet as to what that might be. I thought it might be new Prius. As I understand it, 2018 Prius will not be much of a change at all. Internet speculation is next gen will be 2019 or 2020. Thanks again.
     
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    The next gen Rav4 is due to be released in 2018 as a 2019 model. I wouldn't expect it to be shown in December but who knows?
     
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    There is no such thing as "too soon" for a refresh; the 9th generation Civic got one after one year :p

    Anyway, the next models up on Toyota's slate are the RAV4 (mentioned above) and Avalon (usually follows 12-18 mos. after Camry) and Corolla. Sienna, Prius c and Yaris were just refreshed so will live at least one more year as-is. Who knows what's going on with the Prius v, and the Corolla iM is technically entering its fifth year.

    Given that Prius normally lives six years, expect MMC for '19 model year and the new model for '22.
     
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    Could the 2018 be a facelift ?
    2010 had a facelift in 2012, then next gen was 2016, so I reckon there could be a facelift in 2018 and next gen 2022.
     
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    2018 Prius begins production Nov 30th. LA Auto Show opens Dec 1st, so it would likely debut there. Screen Shot 2017-10-11 at 5.37.30 PM.png
     
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    That’s later than last year. I got my 2017 last October.
     
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    They are listing a Lexus debut as well.
     
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    As you can see below, the 2017 model began production August 31st last year. With production of the 2018 delayed until Nov 30th, I'm expecting a refresh. I hope to see cruise control moved to the steering wheel and an electronic parking brake.

    Screen Shot 2017-10-11 at 11.34.39 PM.png
     
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    I'm just trying to be patient. My 2016 is on contract till October 2019, so there's not much I can do except drool.
     
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    Just curious.
    It appears leasing a vehicle rather than purchasing is common in the UK.
    Here it is more common to either finance the purchase with a bank loan or buy the vehicle using cash from your bank savings account.
    Leasing here is usually used for companies that can use the expense to reduce their corporate taxes or some people who feel they must always have the latest model.
     
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    That's true for a number of separate reasons. This method works best for me financially even if my choices are reduced in consequence.
     
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    PCP and PCH seem to have become popular over here in the U.K. of late, it lets people get into a new car for a reasonably small monthly payment and then an optimal balloon payment at the end to keep it. The other option is to PX your old car for a new one after 2-3 years and start the process all over again. I still prefer the old fashioned cold hard cash method :D

    I know through my visits to the US that all the car ads on the TV seem to just advertise a monthly fee rather than the actual cost of the car.
     
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    The monthly fee is usually either lease or financing. The major car manufacturers have financing arms that handle this. Here is the one for Toyota US, for instance.
    Toyota Financial Services
     
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    That's cause the F'd up the redesign and Consumer Reports took it off the "Recommended" list. (It took an extra year for the coupe to get the refresh but the sedan was the obvious priority)

    Possibly but I always thought the Prius was refreshed too early. In a 6 year cycle, 4 years is a long time. (refreshed on the 3rd year). You'd think they'll split the time 50/50 and refresh on the 4th year. That is typical even on a 5 year cycle.

    It's probably the UX (CT replacement.. CH-R based Lexus subcompact SUV)

    With the higher costs of vehicles in the UK (remember, VAT is at least 20% whereas sales tax in the US is much lower), leasing allows a smaller monthly payment and a smaller loan since you're only paying for the length of the contract. Of course leasing only works if you have a stable job, otherwise you better be sure you can continue the payments.


    With financing lengths getting longer and longer (6, 7, 8 years), someone might look at that and go (why don't I lease for 3 years instead?). At 6, 7, 8 years, your car is probably worth less than your loan which can be a problem if you get into a collision where the car is written off. Most insurance companies (at least up here in Canada) will only offer a "new vehicle replacement" policy for the first 2 or 3 years (where you get a new vehicle of equal model/trim as the one you own in case of a write-off) or a "limited vehicle replacement" where they'll get a new car of the same model year if they can otherwise, they'll pay you out the original purchase price that you paid.

    If you want to purchase the car but need some help, sometimes leasing can be better at first (due to attractive lease rates vs. financing rates) to lower the cost of the vehicle and then you pay the lease end cost of the vehicle with cash. But with 0% or 0.9% financing, financing still works over leasing-then-buying-out-with-cash.
     
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    Avalon gets a re-boot in 2018
     
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    TNGA like the Camry?
     
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