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2010 Prius Blown Engine - What are my options?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Rocketboy235, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Rocketboy235

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    Hey Guys,

    So recently, my Prius that I received from my father (with 230,000+ miles) on it finally looks like it has given up. On my way back home from work, while merging onto the highway, the car started to vibrate as I hit the gas pedal to accelerate. Immediately after that, I heard some noise and saw in my rear view mirror something being thrown back while I was driving. Soon after that, I got the check engine light and saw the warning: Low Oil Pressure so I pulled to the side of the road. This happened a few weeks after I changed the transaxle fluid (though I think this event is unrelated to it). Checked the oil dipstick and saw that nearly all of the engine oil has pretty much escaped.
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    After further inspection, we found that there was a hole (bigger than a golf ball sized hole) punched through in the lower part of the engine block. Unfortunately, I forgot to take a picture while I was under the car but I have provided a picture showing the area and approximate size for illustrative purposes.
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    Not exact location but it's above the black pan attached to the engine block.
    So with all of that said, what are my options? I don't think this is something you can just get a patch and fix it or if there exists some bottom part of the engine block that I can find and replace right? Also, I'm not 100% sure what caused it. What I do know is while driving, I did not drive over any object on the road that could hit my car so that should rule it out. I am wondering if maybe something internally hit the engine block wall as I accelerated.

    At this point, is an engine swap the only option left besides declaring this car a total loss? If so, has anyone here has experience with an engine swap with a 3rd gen Prius? Curious if it's worth the trouble to find a similar Gen 3 engine at the junk yard or some place and do a DIY engine swap (not sure how long that would take) or if you guys recommend a place that has experience with doing Prius engine swaps?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  2. Raytheeagle

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    Sorry to hear about your Prius :(.

    Some that have done the engine work here:

    @danlatu , @Wrekless and @Aaron Vitolins . They will be able to provide you with information and guidance;).

    As for the damage to your engine:

    • Did your Prius burn oil?
    • were there any early warning signs?
    • Did you just perform any other maintenance other than the trans fluid swap?
    Good luck (y).
     
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    Yes you'll need an engine swap if you want to keep it. My sisters 2010 blew it's head gasket at almost 200k. Nice loaded Prius so we bought a 2014 engine with 30 or 40k miles and my father and I replaced it our self's. The engine cost $1000. Runs great and battery still perfect. It would take a whole weekend to replace. The job was though, but easier than we thought!
     
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    You ever get a chance to rip into the water pump, intake manifold or egr system on that blown engine:whistle:?
     
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    Wow! A hole in the engine block most likely means you need to replace the engine. If your engine suffered a blown piston, that may have been the cause of the hole. I cannot say for sure that that was what happened without seeing the engine for myself. At 230,000 miles, it would appear it is time to invest in another vehicle. Many other issues will start to come up with this car, as well as any car with 230,000 miles and to invest in this car (depending on your financial situation) at this point may cost you more over the next few years. If you can, have it checked out by a mechanic to help you make your decision. Good luck.
     
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    Don't think the oil burned. No early warning signs to my knowledge either. Just happened out of the blue. There was an oil change done about 2500-3000 miles before this incident but that's pretty much it.

    Yeah, I may just have to look for another car at this point if I don't have a lot of time to do an engine swap. Haven't noticed any other issue with the car though since it's been on the road about 7-8 years (accruing mostly highway miles).
     
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    How many miles have you put on the Prius?

    Did you change the oil last or have someone else change it?

    Has the intake manifold or egr circuit ever been cleaned?

    We're there any lights on the dash prior to the catastrophic failure?
     
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    You should find those posts by danlatu et al. to be encouraging that the work is at least feasible.

    One question, though: the photo you used to illustrate the area of the hole doesn't look like a 2ZR engine; it looks like a 1NZ in a Gen 2. Is that just because you grabbed the first "prius engine" image you found? Your Gen 3 engine shouldn't have an oil filter in that location....

    -Chap
     
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    I drove about 2000 miles after I received the car.
    My father was the last one that changed the oil (he has been changing the oil throughout the life of the car beforehand). I don't think the intake manifold or egr circuit has ever been cleaned. No lights or warnings popped up before the failure.

    It was one of the first prius engine images I found so sorry for the confusion if it wasn't the correct one. When I did grab it, the design looked a bit different than what I saw while I was under the car so I was a bit suspicious but was a bit lazy and decided to use it anyway. What I do know is that there is a hole above the black pan attached to the block so there's that.
     
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    There's been a few threads about Prius engines that threw a connecting rod out of the lower engine block, usually following an oil change, where someone didn't properly attach an oil filter or oil pan drain plug. Another cause of a piston seizing or catastrophic failure is head gasket failure, where coolant enters the combustion chamber.

    Yes, you'll need a new or salvaged engine.

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    I see, thanks for the information.

    So I guess I can either do an engine swap (probably will be done by my dad and me) or we can have a mechanic do an engine swap (assuming we can find someone with experience with working with Prius). I wonder if it would be worth doing an engine swap (getting a mechanic to do it for us I mean) and then trading this car in afterwards for a new car at the dealership...
     
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    Where in the great state of Taxachussetts do you reside? If we have a better idea, we might be able to recommend a mechanic ;).

    As for a swap then trade in, a Prius with 230 k miles will not trade for much, but it is worth even less in its current condition.

    I would swap the engine and run it for a long time (y).
     
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    Haha, I live in Western Mass, within the Greater Springfield area.
     
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    I think there is a specialist in Greenfield and another certified specialist in Williamsburg.

    Good luck (y).
     
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    Thanks, I'll look there!
     
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    see what you can get on craigs list before paying for another engine, and look at kbb for the value if you put an engine in.
     
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    I strongly suspect that you won't get 100% of your money back (cost of engine+labor+cost of car with bad engine) if you try to trade it in, especially if you use a professional mechanic. You just might be able to sell it privately.

    If the car is otherwise in decent shape, if it were me, I'd replace the engine as cheaply as possible and then drive it until it dies.
     
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    Yes, the waterpump looked fine, not sure if it was actually fine or not.

    EGR cooler was probably 95% clogged. It's going to take a lot of work to clean it out. Used a can of brake cleaner on it but that didnt do much good
     
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    Thanks for the update ;).

    If you keep the egr valve on the cooler and invert the assembly and let the Brake Kleen sit in the cooler for several hours, it didn't help?

    Good to hear about the water pump. My plan was to change it out at 200 k miles as a preventative maintenance item, so I should be good:).

    Thanks for the confirmation (y).