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  1. Sam Spade

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    While it is slightly different, it still is similar to this blackmail story:

    Starting a couple of years ago, most of the NASCAR races went from network TV to a re-badged Speed channel: FoxSN.

    This wasn't a problem for a lot of people......except those who don't have cable......which I expect might be a fair amount of their fans......since most of them carried SPEED already.

    But THEN last year, NBC launched a NEW sports channel of their own, NBCSN, and at the same time got NASCAR to agree to put even more races on this new service......partly so the fans would pressure their cable/dish providers to carry it. BLACKMAIL.

    And the folks without cable or dish are still left out in the cold.
    I don't like bullying tactics whether it is called "capitalism" or some other smoke screen.

    P.S. I don't have a dog in the fight either.......because I actually attend a large number of races and have "cable" for the rest. I just don't like the manipulation that goes on.
     
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    yes? yes? what about last year???
     
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    I gave up nascar 3 years ago when they started changing the rules.
     
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    honestly, if nascar has an obligation to be on broadcast tv, what's next? charge what the market will bare. if most of their fans don't have cable, they must be losing a fortune.
     
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    In Britain, there are specific rules that a few events have to be on free-to-air: I think it's the FA Cup Final (soccer), Wimbledon (tennis), the Oxford-Cambridge Boat Race (inexplicably), the Grand National (horse racing) and a few others.

    So it can be done. Whether it should be I don't know.
     
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    Here the sports groups make too much money selling broadcast rights.
     
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    how much is too much?(n) when i ask for a raise?
     
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    You said it yourself....
    Whatever the market will "bear."

    For me this represents both monetary and time capital the latter being MUCH more important than the former.

    I simply do not give a rats about what entertainment/sports people charge other than whether or not it's worth my time and money.

    I probably watch a total of 3 hours of TV per week, so when I actually DO want to sit down and watch something, the ability to 'binge' watch a series is fairly attractive.
    I get a price break for my beloved company's product, but if I were single, I'd be a "cord-cutter."

    The fact that people already know what cord-cutters are stands as a testament to the effectiveness of market forces on infotainment.
    The wheels turn slowly, but they grind finely......

    My views on the ethics or effectiveness of dot.gov's interference with market forces and infotainment are best discussed on another page since people are clad with VERY THIN skin.

    I'll see some of you in the Chuck E. Cheese portion of the forum later, I'm sure........ :rolleyes:
     
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    i don't see how government regulation of cable tv has helped over the years. maybe the investment wouldn't have been made in the first place if competition had been allowed?
     
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    There is no "obligation".
    It is called "playing to your audience".
    And they HAVE been doing rather poorly through and after the recent recession.

    They seem to think that they can replace lost fan revenue with money from somewhere else.
    That won't work for very long.
     
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    that's good to hear, i would be pleased if they disappeared from the face of the earth. second dumbest 'sport' ever invented.
     
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    Maybe they could put some corners in?
     
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    I really LIKE road races.......on TV.

    The problem with being there is that you can't really see much of the race.

    The same problem plagues some oval tracks.......like Indy. At best, you can see about 1/4 of the track.
     
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    WTH are you trying to say ?
    Because YOU don't care for it, it should not exist ??
    NICE.
    NOT.
     
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    no, i did not say it should not exist, i said i would be pleased if it disappeared from the face of the earth. there's a difference.
    now if you like it, and think it should hang around, you have to put your money where your mouth is. that's what makes the world go around.;)
     
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    OK I see the difference: You'd be happy if it moved to Mars maybe. o_O

    And I DO support it by personally attending about 12 races a year.
     
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    By definition; Enough, dear sir, is what I seldom have.

    Bjorn again, huh? That would be great!
     
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    Love 'continental' humor.....
     
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    I'm having a hard time getting over the change to Klingons. It's change for change sake. There's no other reason for it. I understand they were significantly changed between TOS and the first movie but at that point, Klingon lore had not been fully fleshed out yet.

    I'm a devoted fan that has watched nearly every episode of every series. It's hard to watch TOS as I grew up during TNG and 60's television is a bit lacking in special effects.

    I loved the rebooted Kelvin timeline and would rank the new movies up there with Wrath of Khan. I even liked Enterprise. So change is not something I dislike.

    Anyway, I watched the first free episode. It was actually pretty good. I will wait until the entire series is available and binge watch it. I can't get over the Klingon thing and CBS is making it easy for me to make the decision to not watch it. Hopefully, I read more positive reviews that'll pique my interest.
     
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    no, i don't want that pollution on mars either. but happily for nascar fans, i don't have any effect on their success or failure.
     
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