Prime not going to be Sold in Ontario, Canada

It has been reported the Prime will be sold in the rest of Canada starting next year. Probably mid to late spring.

Quebec has a California style renewable energy law. I forget the exact term used. Go to Driving Television and watch this weeks show. It's mentioned there.

 

Why don't you come over to the US of A and I'll let you test drive mine. granted, it's not the Canadian version but I do have the Advanced

 

Latest update from my dealer in Vancouver (where i'm #1 on the waitlist) is Spring 2018...They had told me Spring 2017 so who knows?! not sure I'll be waiting that long as my needs may have changed by then?!

 

Hello , im new here ... im from QC and still waiting for my Prime since 3 week ...

I just wanted to add some infos about this new law in QC : As of the 2018 model year, 3.5 % of vehicles sold in Quebec must be electric or plug-in hybrids and by 2025 it will be 22%. Each qualifying vehicle sold earns the manufacturer credits. It's pure speculation but i think that Toyota want to build up credits faster by selling the Prime in QC in the first place because electricity is very cheap in our province.

Currently, there is a debate as to whether this legislation is good or not or well implemented. You see , the credits earned by a manufacturer can be traded / sold to others manufacturers who do have meet the 3.5% requirement. Consumers are worried that this could be a disguised tax because if a manufacturer needs to buy credits , the cost will be passed on to the consumers and inflate the price for a non-hybrid / plug-in vehicle.

 

Bonjour,

144 Prius Prime vendus en juin et 98 en juillet au Québec seulement.

144 Prius Pirme sold in june and 98 in july in Québec only.

Voici un résumé de la Loi (in french only)

http://www.mddelcc.gouv.qc.ca/changementsclimatiques/vze/feuillet-vze-enbref.pdf

 

So, in part, this "Quebec only" policy is related to building up points there. But is it also related to the lithium ion battery minimum temp.? I have heard it can be damaged below -30C. If this is true I wonder about Alaska, and if the Prime is available there.
I have also heard, via a different grapevine, that Toyota is going to move to a different lithium battery, a solid one, rather than the current "paste" type. I wonder if that will mean that minimum temp. will "go away". Allowing them to confidently sell them everywhere.

 

In general, Li-ion batteries will be damaged by charging them at regular rates when the pack is below 0C. The solution is to charge at a very reduced rate until the process has sufficiently warmed the pack, or heat the pack up. The Prime uses the latter, and the programing for cars going to Canada and Alaska will allow more use of that heater.

We have little details on Toyota's solid state batteries beyond that they can charge at a much faster rate. There are Li-ion chemistries already available that can better handle freezing temperatures. Cost and market size will likely keep these out of consumer vehicles. There is also work being done with having a smaller heater inside the cell; instead of using a heating pad, there is a resistance heater wire running through the electrolyte.

 

That's funny Tideland. Mainly because before the 31 days the 12V battery will be dead and all will be for "nought". Unless of course, plugging it in will also "maintain" the 12V system, which as far as I can tell it doesn't. Something they missed?
Oh to live in a place where the temps. are "reasonable".