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Charger Cable and 220V?

Discussion in 'Prime Plug-in Charging' started by stevepea, Jun 23, 2017.

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  1. stevepea

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    At home I only have 110V, and use the included Toyota charging cable.

    But how do you charge at someone else's house (not Chargepoint) if they have a 220V outlet for their electric dryer? A relative has a 220V outlet (for his dryer), but I can't plug the included Toyota charger into the wall because the holes are different in a 220 outlet than a 110.

    Does that mean I can never charge there at 220V (unless he gets some sort of charging station -- which I would never ask him to do for just me coming over occasionally). Or is there a way people can directly plug into a 220V outlet (say, one used normally for an electric dryer). An adapter for the 110V charger cable, perhaps? A 220V version of the charger cable?

    For someone who has a 220V outlet (for things like an electric dryer), is there any way you could simply plug into that outlet, or must some sort of charging station have to be installed?
     
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    not with the supplied cable. you can buy a 220v evse, or get yours upgraded to 110/220 at evseupgrade.com.
     
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    The electronics on the Toyota charging cord can't handle 240 volts. Stick with your 120 volts. Or do the upgrades bisco mentions--but are they worth the money???

    Adapters for charging cables only change the plug configuration. There are a couple of differently configured 120 v plugs and several different 240 volt plugs. No adapter can change the voltage (and, we're not getting into transformers here nor splitting the hot leads, folks).

    The U.S. upgraded household power to 120 volts and 240 volts sometime in the 1950's.
     
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    I'm thinking about buying one of these since I have a 220v in my garage:

    ChargePoint Plug-in Station with 25' cord $674

    or I've heard good things about ClipperCreek $395

    ClipperCreek LCS-20P (I like the portability of this one)
     
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    We just purchased 2 of the Wi-Fi Juicebox chargers.

    Love'm.
     
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    I like the reviews on them also, but they aren't UL listed or ETL listed yet. I need them to be "listed" so I can qualify for the $500 utility credit. I have the JuicePlug of theirs.
     
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    They've been working toward the certification. The recent switch to the new box with the short cord will hopefully get the listing.
     
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    Thanks for the replies and the options, everyone. Would've been nice if Toyota included both a 110 and 220 charger, but oh well. For the costs involved, I won't bother getting a 220 charger (since it would only be an occasional charge at someone else's place), but if I did, I'd probably lean towards the Clipper Creek. Looks simple, straightforward, and price is (relatively) reasonable -- $379.
     
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    Just emphasizing the point: If one used an adapter to feed 240V to the Toyota EVSE, one would likely have their own private fireworks show. Home electrical systems for our friends in the UK and the rest of Europe are 240V, so the EVSE provided to them supports 240V.
     
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    doesn't your relative have an accessible 110 outlet?
     
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    New owner - what does EVSE stand for. Thanks
     
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    Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.

    Basically the object that supplies electricity to your car. It’s the one everyone calls a charger or charging station (but technically, the charger is built into the car).
     
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    So what is the difference between a charging station and an EVSE? Or is a charging station just an EVSE on steroids, including things beyond the basic EVSE functions, such as usage logging and Internet access and, for public charging stations, billing?
     
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    The technical term for the "charging station" is EVSE since for the most part, they only supply electricity to the car. The car's onboard converter will limit the supply (amperage) and deal with the nitty gritty stuff. This is why, technically, the charger is in the car and that's why the stuff you mount on the wall or the "public charging stations" or the cable you carry is all part of the EV Supply Equipment.

    However, the general public has taken on the term "charging station" or "charger" as the equipment that supplies the electricity.

    So.... in general chitchat, it's interchangeable.

    (just like the wall outlet is technically a receptacle and the charging cable end is the plug).
     
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    I knew about the charger being in the car, at least for AC charging. For DC fast charging, isn't the external device the actual charger? I was just wondering if there is any technical distinction between a charging station and an EVSE. Or are they the same thing.
     
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    Yeah in a DCFC, the charger is located in the unit itself.

    It's not a technical distinction but more of a misnomer.

    While not a great example, it's like asking if Kleenex and tissue paper has a technical distinction. No they don't. The "technical" name is tissue.
     
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    can I plug a prius prime 110v charger into 240 volts
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Hello I was using special cable that I bought $269 when I got my new 2017 Prius prime adv and that cable has different type of plug
    so the electrical works install for me at my garage it cost me $50 + 10 material and I use the special cable to charge my Prius prime adv

    and it get charge in less the 2 hours and I did use that for 3 years and no problems and now I sold my Prius but I did not sell the cable

    I have that cable and I selling that cable $ 190 + shipping so if any one looking for 220v charging cable for Prius please let me know
    and I do have the original Prius charging cable also that comes when you buy
     
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