Filter wont come off...Ideas?

Did you remove the metal clip before trying to rotate the filter off?

The filter housing does require a fair bit of force to remove, but ensure the metal clip at the 7 o'clock position is removed first.

Good luck.

 

I broken 2 teeth off of the aluminum 65mm wrench due to torque that the housing got .

I eventually got it off, but it took more force than I would have thought.

Just make sure the filter wrench is securely seated and the clip is removed. One trick you could try is to tighten it slightly, then try to remove it.

Keep us posted .

 

I never found that clip did much of anything, fwiw, I forget it's even there. I can't see it being the problem.

I'm using the standard Honda automotive filter, also 14 flute, and measuring with a dial caliper just now, it measures 64.5 mm, inside face-to-face. That said, I'm the only one since the factory to install the filter, always used the spec'd. 18 ft/lb torque.

When removing it I'm using a long-handle (17" roughly) 1/2" drive Jet ratchet, with a 1/2" to 3/8" reducer and extension, typically. It's just a little reluctant to get started, but again, that's after torquing to spec.

The Honda socket doesn't extend down into the stiffereners (obviously), is 3/8" internal drive and also fits a 17 mm socket. It's heavy-gauge stamped-steel, if you want to give that a try you could probably pick up at any Honda dealership. Not sure if it'd be any better though, sounds like someone put it on with an impact driver.

You might also try one of the strap kind wrenches, and maybe wet the band and sprinkle with pumice for some extra grip? Got the feeling a socket is going to ultimately round the corners. Might be good to get an extra filter housing, in preparation.

 

Try putting some sandpaper between the filter and the filter wrench. It will provide extra bite. I had a similar issue on a oil filter on a motorcycle I had in the past and the sandpaper trick worked for me. Be sure to put two sheets, rough side facing the filter on one sheet and then the rough side facing the filter wrench so that there's plenty of bite on both sides. Make sure it's seated fully before trying to loosen.

 

Tap the filter cover with a hammer all edges. Tighten it 1/8 turn in. Then loosen it off.

 

Are these breaking at the square drive? I'm guessing you don't have an impact wrench but that and an impact socket (like the TOY640 only fits a 24mm with no square drive) might be gentler on those fragile aluminum oil filter sockets since it provides steady energy and hammer. I bet they last put it on with an impact wrench.

 

I think this is the latest version of the Honda oil filter socket. Mine was purchased around 1990, has a different part number stamped on it. Fits snug:

 

I couldn't get the oil filter off on my first DIY oil change. I simply brought the car to a mechanic and told him not to over-tighten the filter for the first oil change. I managed to get the oil filter off easily afterwards.

 

My aluminum filter housing socket has a hex for a 24mm socket. I use a 1/2" ratchet and 24mm 1/2" drive socket. I doubt you could break it. I suspect the housing socket might damage the filter housing if enough torque is applied though. I don't torque the housing to the engine. I turn until it bottoms then stop. It doesn't need torque to stay in place or to seal. Tightening it is what is causing all the grief. Just did an oil change yesterday so all this is fresh in my mind. Oh, and thanks Mendal for the "wash the push pins" tip. They work so much better when clean.

If it is as tight as you indicate, you may damage the filter housing removing it. Be ready to buy a new one.

 

I'd agree with all of that. The only quibble: torqueing to 18 ft/lb will not lead to grief, it's never hard to break loose subsequently , if it's torqued correctly. That said, I think you're right, with the O-ring being on the barrel, firm hand tightening should be ok.

In OP's case, it's very likely some nutter with a powered driver or air tool has been at it.

It's funny: I got my Honda 64 mm socket when I had a Hurricane, in the late '80's; it was only Honda motorcycles with such a diminutive filter. Stamped heavy-gauge steel, it's lasted.

 

With the transaxle fluid, remove the fill bolt first, just in case.

 

you can take the whole filter assembly off by removing 3 bolts on the other side of filter,put it on a vise and use a pipe wrench