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Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by bwilson4web, May 2, 2017.

  1. stevepea

    stevepea Senior Member

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    Remember, they're comparing the Volt to a normal Prius (non plug-in), not the Prime.

    I test drove the Volt and considered it. The EV range of the Volt is impressive, but they skimped on the ICE (cheap Mexican-made ICE that is not very fuel efficient at all). In comparison to the Prime, it's not like it was 50 vs 54. It was 42, which is not very impressive in today's world (especially when all it has to do is recharge the battery). But I know a few Volt drivers, and they're happy with it, as Prime owners are with theirs. To each his own..
     
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    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    For us, we used less gasoline in our gen1 Volt then we did in our gen2 Prius.
    The answer to that question is different for different people and driving needs.

    For some, the Prius will save more gas, for more than half of drivers, I suspect the Volt will.
     
  4. bwilson4web

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    I would modify that to:

    for more than half of drivers who have any plug-in, I suspect the Prime or Volt or BMW i3-REx will.

    The pathological case is no plug-in anywhere in which case either the Prius or Prime would burn nearly equally, less gasoline. Gas-only operation of the Volt or BMW i3-REx is not recommended over the Prius or Prime.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    When reading "Thread for All Confirmed Prices", "Dianne's 2017 Prius Prime Inventory..." and others, the majority of Prime purchases are from New England states (NJ, NY, MA, ME, MD, RI) and West Coast (CA, OR) regardless the buyer location. Kind of odd.., just by simplistic deduction TM seems to be targeting where the highest educated state and/or highest income states and/or wealthy states and/or democrat state are located. Please do not misinterpret and be upset on the above statement, it is just a simplistic view and for information.
     
  6. Prodigyplace

    Prodigyplace 2025 Camry XLE FWD

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    CARB states?
     
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    Yes, CARB states, but high purchases and highest TM cash rebates for Primes currently are the New England states
     
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    john1701a Prius Guru

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    40 mile trip yesterday with a depleted battery-pack = 62.2 MPG
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    It shows in the case of PHEVs that the MPG rating alone won't provide the answer as to how much gasoline the car uses. Some buying plug ins are doing so to reduce petroleum use. Many more won't even look at a plug in at this point. So any positive talk about them could help.

    Perhaps he just doesn't like BMW or the people that buy them.:)
    It also isn't a big seller, and CARB's hobble means it isn't a full fledge PHEV.

    The Prime, and most other plug ins, get shipped to these areas first for the CARB credits. There is also the inflated sales there because of impatient people outside those areas not waiting for the Prime to arrive locally.
     
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    You are partially correct, but TM is not providing 2500 cash back in CA, and overall vehicle pricing in New England States are better. As far as impatient, for me was more like free market rebellion (why wait months for 2017 that may be delivered end 2Q2017 or end 3Q2017 and pay MSRP or some mediocre discount in my area/location)
     
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    Just saw my first Prime on the road the other day. About 10 minutes later, I saw an i8 driving around. Thinking about it, I've seen more i8s on the road than Primes.
     
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    There is only two Prime in Houston, "FA6" and me
     
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    How can you find this out?
     
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    saw my second prime (except at dealer) at low's in natick, ma.
     
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    CARB states tend to be blue states with good incentives and also close to ports of entry.
    If you compare MD vs. VA for say a Tesla, incredibly more costly in VA I suspect, not intentionally, but we tax the crap out of cars here in VA. MD/DC instead has low car sales tax and high incentives for green cars. Its a big $$ difference.
     
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    No incentives in Jersey, unless it's a BEV.
     
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    No accounting for NJ (NJ alumni here)...I guess with Repub in Gov seat, NJ missed the recent wave of blue state Plug_in incentives. I have to see if NJ signed that Governor's pact a few years ago to promote green cars. Relief is in sight for you. Hold on for your next auto purchase until end of year Gov elections in VA and NJ.
     
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    So, what does it say about me that I googled that to see if Google can do that? [I did not get a "direct" Google response, but the link to the solution at mathwarehouse.com]
     
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    Lol, my solution also.
     
  20. Captmiddy

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    Was it Red? :D - I was around Lowes/Target a couple weeks back, not last week though. I do cruise around Natick/Framingham from time to time as we bought the car down that way.
     
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