Fuel Additives

It will make your car lighter by the amount of money you wasted on it.

 

I don't think any modern car (built in the last 20 years) needs anything like it.
As long as you fuel up with E10 (no more than 10% ethanol) and according to the octane number provided in the user's manual, no modern car needs anything.
There are plenty Prius and many other cars that drive thousands of miles without any addictive and without any fuel quality related problem.

 

I don't think any modern car (built in the last 20 years) needs anything like it.
As long as you fuel up with E10 (no more than 10% ethanol) and according to the octane number provided in the user's manual, no modern car needs anything.
There are plenty Prius and many other cars that drive thousands of miles without any addictive and without any fuel quality related problem.

 

I agree - it's something like what we put into my Dad's car with 250,000km on the suggestion of his mechanic to see if it would "possibly help clean the fuel injectors". Yes, it did help, but only a little.

I certainly wouldn't bother with a car with less than 100,000km - but I usually sell my cars before then anyway.

 

Well yes and no. An occasional dose of injector cleaner is not a bad thing. But if you think "cleaning out the carbon" is in any way beneficial you are just fooling yourself; if the product even accomplishes that which is unlikely.

You also need to be careful to follow the dosing instructions on the bottle.
If the whole bottle is designed to treat 25 gallons of gas and your tank only holds 10........putting in a whole bottle may NOT be a good thing.

 

Yeah, that was a waste of money on a new car.

An injector cleaner can actually be helpful after quite a few years, especially if you're using lower quality fuel that doesn't have much in the way of detergents anyway, but no Gen 4 is old enough that an injector cleaner is called for.

 

First of all....if you use top tier gas they're already fortified with additives.....supposedly, and if you live where they sell E10 then you're already using one of the better gummy-outtie chemicals in your gas, and they add it at "no additional cost:"
Ethanol!

B. If you have less than 5,000 on the car then you haven't driven it nearly enough to build up the carbon, sludge, varnish, goo that you're trying to eliminate, so adding Marvel Mystery Oil to the tank will make it "Drive Like New!"
Er....but that's only because it was already new to start with.

3. If it runs good, it is good.
Priuses get good mileage. That's sort of the whole point.
If this stuff impacted mileage in any measurable way, then not only its use would be mandated by dot.gov., but OEMs would be buying it by the barrel to increase their CAFE numbers.
Come to think of it......I wonder if Vee-Dubbaya is using it????
If it prevented deposits in any measurable way, then manufacturers would have shelves lined with it and they would add it to the schedule of maintenance.
If it were really effective then instead of urging you to use it every 3,000 miles, they would be warning you to only use it every 10,000 miles or you'll wreck your cat.

Your G4 runs good because it is good, and Toyota cares so much about your car's longevity and their build reputation that they mention using preventative fuel maintenance additives (i.e. Snake-oil) absolutely NOWHERE in the owner's manual that nobody ever reads.
Of course, that's speculative because......................................(wait for it!)...............................I haven't read the manual either!


Good Luck with the C-type!
Start saving for the Prime that, according to your signature, is only a few months away now.

 

To be fair, I put in a bottle of Techron every 100,000 miles

 

Use top tier gas.

 

Bad idea. Your motor probably isn't even broken in yet and you are already adding additives to the fuel. Like others have said, if you are only using top tier gas, it will be a real long time before you have to add anything to the fuel to help clean out carbon or the injectors.

 

impetuous, or impulsive?

 

What keeps the EGR system clean? I hear that plugs up. Also, carbon buildup on the throttle plate?

 

"Carbon" isn't the major culprit.......despite the marketing hype.

Nothing keeps the EGR system clean. That's why it needs some attention periodically.
And raw fuel never touches it so additives don't help.

With fuel injection, only AIR passes the throttle plate so nothing to deposit carbon there AND no fuel additive will touch it either.
That too needs periodic manual cleaning.

 

Note that in an Atkinson cycle engine, there's some reversion of intake charge, which could result in fuel and recirculated exhaust gases hitting the throttle plate. (AFAIK, in a 4 or more-cylinder, that should be minimized - there's always another cylinder ready to accept the pushed out charge - but...)

 

As far as I know, in the USA, the only additive that might make sense on a new car would be some Techron/detergent as per Jimbo, TopTierGas.com gaso stations probably add enough detergent, but if you're going to smaller brands, it might make sense to add some Techron once in a while.

I do not add gaso additives, ever. But I do live in an EPA RFG area which tends to be cleaner blend and I use TopTierGas. If my engine started struggling in old age, sure I might play around then.

For my lawn mower container, I do add Stabil if I get around to it.

 

So why then does the throttle plate need cleaning? What gets on it that needs to be cleaned off?

 

Dirt.
After you suck a few million cubic feet of air through there, some dust gets past the air filter.

 

I personally stay out of ethanol mix....

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One of the addatives used by many Dealers.....good staff

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Tune up on time....good combustion is result of clean EGR and happy emission parts.....

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Crank case recovery system

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Using top tier gasoline you mentioned especially Shell Nitrogen enriched premium fuel will do this without ever needed addative
If you want to use one....
Use Techron addative

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