What Drives Us review: Prius Prime

Believe me, I'm not bashing anybody, or the Prime, but I just don't get it. I get 60 MPG with my Three Touring without doing anything special. If I get a Prime, Colorado will charge me a fee every year for registering a plug-in to offset loss of tax revenue on fuel purchases, and I will probably pay more for my electricity at home when I plug the car in. Maybe your method recharges the car on the trip home and negates needing to plug it in, but it's not worth the trouble to get the same average MPG as my current Prius.

 

Everyone has to deal with their requirements which can change depending upon what local, state, and federal governments try to do. For example, years ago Georgia was hybrid and plug-in friendly. Now they have a 'hippy tax' that eviscerated sales. . . . <Hummm, time for another Colonial Pipeline failure.>

Bob Wilson

 

1. The DSG stepped transmission has been commented on in reviews. Apparently on fast roads the car can "hunt" between the two top gears in an irritating fashion.

2. Paid for charge points are potentiality an issue for PHEVs depending on access business model. In the uk one big Network wants 8 GBP per month just to have the rfid card that allows access to its charge points. Charging is an extra cost on top out of that. For those without the rfid card, the charge per kWh is 2.5 times the average domestic price and 5 times what I pay for my overnight rate. Ok I suppose for an emergency charge but with a PHV petrol is a far more convenient emergency option! So the business models can be so biased towards BEVs as to exclude PHEV use in practice.

3. From what I read, including the detailed measurements that were kindly posted on Priuschat, I initially excluded the Prius PHV/Prime as an option, but having seen it first hand, and tried my own luggage and types of objects that I regularly carry in my Gen2 that the new model will replace, I was pleasantly surprised and I now one on order!

No car will be perfect for everyone, but IMHO the Prius PHV is a lot more practical than some have said, implied or inferred in terms of cargo carrying and I recommend everyone to decide not based on what anyone else else says but based on their own personal inspection of the vehicle.

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

don't you get 5k up front in co?

 

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sites/default/files/Income67.pdf

 

see your professional tax preparer.

 

I don't know what your electric bill is there in Colorado, but here in California in Anaheim, my electric bill is the same as it was before I plugged in my Prius Prime for a whole month. It only takes one or two very hot days for me to have to run the air conditioning in the house all day and that changes everything. The impact of the plug-in hybrid is almost negligible relative to the use of air conditioning in the house. The beauty of this whole thing is I have last seen a gas station 3 weeks ago, and I still have an almost full gas tank! And I drive 25000 miles a year. The gas station I use, is always crowded and there's a long wait. It's very annoying. But if your particular Prius, is low mileage, reliable, and gets the great mileage you're getting, there's no reason to change. My pip 2012, averaged 65 miles per gallon over 103,000 miles; but I saw the writing on the wall with up to $3000 of scheduled maintenance, including tires, minor bodywork, plugs, transmission service coming up. I'm very happy I Advanced!


Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

our bill almost doubled when we got the pip.

 

so, it's now 2 bucks a month?

 

i wish. at 24 cents a kWh, it's a couple hundred. we do have electric stove and oven, and a well pump.

 

To add optimization and balancing will not be same as using Plug in option...
There was the reason why charge mode do only to 80%
And thank you for posting your idea....I'm doing same thing
This are findings I'm experimenting unless I'm findings something else

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

are you on TOD?

https://www2.dteenergy.com/wps/wcm/connect/e014f02d-957b-4397-b00b-42813ec8319d/electicrateinsert0212.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

 

OUCH! Yeah, I'm all natural gas over here for heating and cooking. My big electric bill is with the air conditioning which really sucks the juice. The Prius both the 2012 and the 2017 have made negligible differences in my electric bill. But over here we're at $0.16 a kilowatt.

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

My last electric bill was $150 for 2 months including Prime Advanced charging for 1 month up to twice/day. A/C used a couple of days when temperature bit nearly 90 degrees. I do get break on electric for heart condition.

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

no, unfortunately, we have no choices.

 

Here in Nebraska with all fees included translate to 0.1106 per KW...
And anyway....My station is now at my house...

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

That is not bad....I use to burn a week that much in Fuel with my Gas powered car

Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.

 

We're about a dime per kWh here. House is, sadly, all electric. Sure would like to go back to cooking with gas! We just got our PiP the last week of December. I can see the difference. Summer will be the real test. We've not yet had a bill over $100 in the 2-1/2 years we've lived here, but we might now. I'm sure a Prime would have made a lot more impact. But, even at these low gas prices, electric is still cheaper than gas here when it comes to propelling my car.

 

I've been thinking about propane for at least the stove. Takes all stinkin' day just to fry an egg! We used propane in Honduras because electricity there was over 50 cents a kWh.

 

i never said my wife was human, but if we were meant to fly, we would have been born with wings.
funny thing though, for the 30 years leading up to it, she said she would never cook on electric.