ICE coming on first thing in the morning

Timely thread.

Out to the garage or outside?

Are you using 110v or 240v charging?

 

i charged my pip in the 43 degree garage, then drove 9 miles in 19 degrees, no ice.

 

Are you in eco heat or defrost mode? When you use eco mode it uses the heat pump. I have had an annoyance (because I mount my phone directly above the tablet) that the wire would actually hit the front defrost button with the lightest touch and start the engine there... Especially it being cold.

Now with eco heat. I've had the engine off at 20f. I remember the pip engine will turn on anytime you use the heat at all.

This is really an odd time to release the prime (and the 4th gen was similar) release it went most of the country is going through winter lol. Might as well though. If you still see fabulous results wait until the spring summer and fall.

 

Any better success with keeping the ICE off with your idea above?

 

Any repeated discussion is pointless.
It has been covered several times before.
These vehicles (Toyota hybrids) are designed so that the ICE WILL run soon after starting out to get the engine up to temperature.......and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it.

P.S. That applies to the non-plugin models only. I don't really remember about the plugin ones.

 

right, this is a prime plug in thread.

 

Plug-in threads? I've had plug-in battery heated socks, but never a full outfit...

 

Temperature today was 24F. Just went on a 7 mile trip with AC set to AUTO, and heated seats and heated steering wheel on. When I started the trip the battery showed 16 miles range. Apparently, this was overly optimistic since we got down to 2.4 miles shown when the ICE kicked in after having gone 6+ miles. At any rate, I believe the ICE kicked in because the projected range had gotten very low. So I went over 6 miles in all EV before the ICE finally kicked in with 24F temperature and 2.4 miles showing as left on the battery.

 

yeah, but have you had PRIME plug in battery heated socks?

 

24 F? AC auto, heated seats, heated steering wheel? isn't that overkill? Heck, I can get by at 8 F with just AC auto

 

wh

what was your average speed for 6 miles? the only way for 16 estimated to 6 actual is typically a low average speed, then all highway.

 

it's ironic, we had these same discussions when the pip first came out. why is the engine coming on? toyota said that they solved that problem with the prime.

 

I suspect they did. Perhaps in an unexpected way.

Bob Wilson

 

careful, your starting to sound like kool aid 1701.

 

My Prime Advanced is not acting this way. Except for the drive home from the dealership with an uncharged battery and about 2 miles when the EV indicator went to 0 when I was out running a bunch of errands, my ICE has not come on at all.

Mostly driven in temperatures around 25 to 32 F. I have the climate system set on auto, 72 F, and am not using Eco mode. I thought that perhaps it was because all the sub-32 trips started from my garage which stays above freezing in all but the most brutal cold (for Delaware). Tonight I drove to a party 6 miles away in 22 F weather, stayed for hours and drove home with the car saying it was 19 F outside. It had hours of outdoor parking. Total trip, both ways, was 100% EV, never heard the ICE come on. Seat heater was on high along with using the steering wheel heater.

When I ran the EV miles indicator down, the ICE didn't start until the heads up display read 0.0 EV miles. I put the car in Auto EV mode a couple of days ago and the engine never came on (speeds to 55 MPH). I don't know why my car seems so obstinate about using just EV mode.

 

you got a keeper.

 

I was going to ask the question if Prime drives like an EV with range left, but with ICE kicking on after 6 miles, doesn't seem worth asking the question.

 

My Prime finally kicked on its engine while driving 6 miles and being 0 degrees out. It seems to smartly know when the heat pump is longer a factor for heat.