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New owner wheel and tire question

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Wonderwilley, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. Wonderwilley

    Wonderwilley Junior Member

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    So I bought a 2010 Prius a few months back and for the most part have been happy enough with the car, however I'm a bit disappointed with the mileage. I hoped to get somewhere in the high 40s to low 50s which I have been able to get with some effort but most of the time I'm stuck in the low 40s and sometimes 30s. I do admit to driving around 75 on the freeway and I know that will effect the numbers. My car has the optional 17 inch wheels and I've read they generally return about 2 mpg less with these wheels, my car also has a set of Michelin pilot sport as3 tires. So my question is how much mpgs do you guys think I'm giving up. I'm seriously contemplating trading my 17 inch wheels for a set of 15s with LRR tires. I really love the look of the car with the 17s so I'm kinda hesitant. I'm not crazy about the road noise or ride comfort of my tire and wheel combo. So I don't know what do you guys think? Thanks in advance
     
  2. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk EGR Fanatic

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    Oh yeah.

    You could go to 15", but that'd be a shame I think. The 17" are sweet rims, and the main reason we opted for Canadian Touring model, with the same setup. I was a bit gobsmacked when I realized the 15" were utilitarian alloys with plastic covers, to this day I don't understand Toyota on that one.

    Anyway, the Pilot Sport AS3 are a likely factor. I doubt they're the OEM tire? Ours came with Pilot HX MXM4, and I see they have the "GreenX" (LRR) label. They are pretty good for rolling resistance, just my feel. However, if I were to replace with same I see they don't have the GreenX label, so you have to be careful. Right now top of my list is Michelin Primacy MXM4, which does have GreenX label.

    I've got no illusions that a 17" low profile with GreenX label is going to match something like the Michelin Energy Saver A/S in 195/65R15, but at least it has more potential for good mpg, than a "sport" oriented tire.

    My Fuelly icon is currently at 4.9 liters per 100 km, which translates to 48 mpg (US gallons). This is pretty much the lifetime mileage of the car, apart from the first maybe 2000 km's. We get nowhere near 75 mph, ever. Fastest we go is around 80 kmh (50 mph), on secondary highways. The driving is a mix, we're both retired, shopping trips, occasional runs of about 25 kms into town. I try to drive strategically, but I'm not nuts about it. We also use a blockheater before first run of the day, year 'round.
     
  3. Raytheeagle

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    Welcome to Prius Chat(y)!

    How many miles on your Prius?

    When we take out 2010 Prius II on road trips and hot 75 mph, the mpg drops down to around 40-42. This is with 15 inch Bridgestone Turanza serenities.

    I have 146 k miles on the odometer and going strong. Lifetime mpg is probably around 49 mpg with mostly highway driving due to commuting.

    Depending on the miles on your Prius, there might be other issues (other than colder weather) that might cause moths to drop.
     
  4. JC91006

    JC91006 Senior Member

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    I have 17 inch wheels on my 2010 and 2015, both give mileage below 45mpg. I would say low 40s is normal for me
     
  5. socal13

    socal13 livin in the foothills...

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    I have 17's on my 2013 prius persona and I have averaged about 40.5 mpg over the life of the car (26k miles on oem Toyo Proxes) but I am going up and down the hill on short trips and not much freeway driving. I know my mileage is much lower than most but I'm ok with it. (40 ain't bad in the big picture).
     
  6. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

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    I'm in the upper 40's with 15's. I drive whatever speed the car in front of me allows up to 85 mph. The ECO light turns off when you get around 86 mph.

    Let's do some quick math. Assume I get 2 mpg less with 17" tires driving the same way I do now.

    15000 miles per year / 47 miles per gallon x $2.30 per gallon = $734 per year
    15000 miles per year / 45 miles per gallon x $2.30 per gallon = $767 per year

    17" tires, $150 each x 4 = $600 every 4 years
    15" tires, $100 each x 4 = $400 every 4 years

    So roughly $83 a year difference in cost between 15" tires and 17". I'm going to say, I don't really care. I'll actively choose the more economical 15" choice but if the car already comes with 17". It doesn't matter. Assume, I get 4 mpg less or gas price doubles to $4.60, now we're talking a ~$120 difference a year. ...Still not going to care.