Tesla fast charging station at mall

toyota isn't there yet. it's a phev, not a bev. you don't drive from station to station trying to add electrons, you boost your mpg's by charging when convenient.

 

What's amazing about their slow charging? They can add around 200 miles of range in around 45 minutes. I can add 200 miles of range to my Prius in 30 seconds.

I'd never wait more than the 8 minutes it takes for my entire family to use the bathroom to gain enough range to reach the next charging station. Tesla needs to pump the Superchargers up to half a megawatt.

 

Teslas can use all the CharePoint chargers as well.
They can also use the Tesla Superchargers.

Mike

 

I know that. How is that relevant?

 

My wife and I often take about a 250 mile trip. We routinely stop once or twice for 5-15 minutes each time to empty bladders and stretch our bodies that were not designed to sit for hours on end.

A 200 mile Tesla would require one, 5-10 minute stop to charge for our trip. Works for us.

 

You make your entire family take a bathroom break on a road trip in 8 minutes?
Slightly unusual, but ok.
Another 10-15 minutes while you're saving $$$ on no gas = worth it.

 

Works for most.

 

Make? No, that's just how long it takes.

It's not 10-15 minutes, it's 20-35 minutes, and you have to do it twice as often.

 

They share the same bush. And NO #2 ALLOWED.

 

We stop about every 1.5-2.5 hours - for 10 minutes at a time. On a 3,000 mile trip, a Tesla with a 200 mile range wouldn't actually make it unless we went nowhere other than point-to-point between Supercharger stations. Two legs on our last trip avoided such stations for 400+ miles and two we are planning will avoid them for 550 miles and 850 miles.

And that's summer range. In the cold, a 200 mile range becomes a 120 mile range, which isn't even enough for us to safely leave the city.

 

Don't make stuff up. That's at a gas station, and includes filling the car and buying snacks.

 

It gets even worse when crossing the Atlantic.

Occasionally, a different tool is needed.

 

That was all between Denver, Colorado and Dayton, OH. Specifically, Denver - Hutchinson - Kansas City - Champaign - Chicago - Dayton - Kansas City - Hays - Denver.

 

That's not safe in the winter. Such a car would have caused my dealth three times in my life so far.

 

Japan gets CHAdeMO because even those who have access to home charging have crap electric service in terms of EV charging compared to other markets.

Plug ins are still a young market, and aimed more at those that can charge at home.

 

why do these threads always devolve into...

 

Because some people make exaggerations and foolish statements such as ...

... without qualifying the statement.
Just as I will happily agree that EVs don't work for all people for all jobs, others need to realize that just because EVs don't work for them doesn't mean they don't work for anyone.

 

Because I would have been stranded in the cold overnight without heat after a highway was closed unexpectedly. Spending the night stranded on the side of the road in -10F because my car ran out of energy isn't my idea of a good time.

 

This can (and does) happen with old fashioned ice vehicles. Ever ran out of gas? It happens.

Let us not forget we're all on the same team here.....I throughly enjoy being able to drive my Prius III home to Illinois from Colorado with only NEEDING to stop once for fuel. Of course, we stop more than this to pee, poo, eat, fuel up, stretch. We usually pack a cooler for food...no matter how long the trip. Road food is stupid expensive and unhealthy. In winter months (and any all terrain situations), we use our Subaru wagon. But, I would absolutely love to be able to make that 1000 mile trip back to Illinois without using a drop of fuel. Usually we are not in a huge rush, and can manage an extra 30 minutes of stop time.
I've traveled this great country from coast to coast several times and back, literally. it's all about enjoying the drive.

 

Never.

For one thing, they typically have a 400+ mile range, even in the winter with the heat running. For another thing, there are 120,000 places to fill up in the US alone. Finally, it's easy to siphon gas from one car to another or carry an emergency reserve tank.