Ok Now Would you Buy a Prime? (POLL)

Agreed. I would ride a broomstick before I buy another Chevy. Will not spend that kind of money for a Tesla S, not that impressed with Tesla reliability yet, so unwilling to spend 40k on a model 3 and wait 2-3 years. And the nearest Tesla place is 50 miles away. Bolt is a tiny car, Both my wife and I survived totalled crashes in our Prius Cs, we are done with small cars. We live in a rural area, any BEV would need more than 200 mile range, in cold winters, in snow, so I could rely on home charging only until the infrastructure develops out here. And we would still need another car to visit relatives.

My 2004 had 200,000 miles when it got totalled. No unplanned maintenance whatsoever. No breakdowns, no trips to the dealer. Brake linings were at 60%. I trust Toyota reliability. I've had Dodges, Fords, Chevys. Been there, done that, no more. Problem after problem after problem. Chevy and Dodge were the worst, but Ford was almost as bad.

Volt could work for me, but it's a Chevy, and I'd still be using gas every day. So the extra 25 miles EV range over the Prime doesn't really make too much difference, not at Volt prices. For the price and reliability, I'll get a Prime. I just don't know if I want to buy soon, or wait for year 2 or 3. Nothing wrong with my 2014 except my hatred of the flying BUTTress and the extremely uncomfortable seat on longer drives.

 

Because every Volt thread, in the Volt section, on the merits of the car gets polluted by anti-GMers, perhaps.

My family had many GM cars while I was growing up. Can't recall any issues with any of them, and we tended to keep cars to 100k miles, but my parents now have a Honda and a Mini.

The only issues I brought the Sonic in for was a mysterious coolant leak and the trim on the B-pillar. Funny thing is that My 2005 Prius also had an issue with the B-pillar trim. The fix for the leak is holding up, but since this was a common problem for the model year, GM has extended the warranty on the related arts.

If the last time you owned a GM car was ten years ago was bed enough to swear off their products, that is fine, but things do change, and your experiences may not hold true for today's cars.

As for the poll, I'm the guy that voted don't care. My commute is 60 miles round trip, without charging at work. A Volt would burn less gasoline in a week than a Prime would, and my township is PV friendly. By the time it comes to replace the Sonic, there will be a fair selection of BEVs that will meet my needs.

For long trips, we take the Sable. It ain't efficient with the Lincoln wheels on it that make the wife happy, but it is comfortable, paid for, and might see 3000 miles a year. I'd put a used gen4 and Prime in the running as eventual replacement, which might get a equal shot as a Camaro with my wife.

With the pricing and specs, the Prime should do well as a plug in. The seating and cargo was a big disappointment and left me with an initial impression that Toyota didn't put their best effort into it. Now I believe they were focused on the home market. Which leaves the Prime in a position similar to the Mirai; a car designed and built for Japan, with Toyota trying to sell it elsewhere simply to decrease the costs.

 

are you taking to me?

 

Had a 2012 Malibu at work. In the first 6,000 miles, the power steering failed once, the ABS failed twice and the tire pressure sensors failed twice (two of four).

 

"A BEV is a failure with current range and infrastructure".
Are you saying just for your needs or are you saying that the 100,000s that have been sold are all failures and people who bought and love them bought failures? Pretty broad blanket statement.

 

I'm also jilted from GM cars. Worst experience ever was a 1999 Cadillac Catera, and I swore off GM forever for stealing my money on that car. Our 2004 Chevy Colorado is holding up well, but had to have the gas tank replaced 2x. 125,000 miles. Next pickup will be a Toyota - they haven't screwed me with a junker yet.

 

For me - won't come close to doing the job. I go on at least a dozen trips a year you couldn't do in a P100D at least without major delays, and some not at all.

 

The first car I ever purchased was a new 1972 Chevy Vega. Chevrolet will never recover from that fiasco as far as I am concerned.

 

OK, but don't label it a failure just because it doesn't suit your needs.

 

Maybe it would be a good idea for you to read that post again this time paying attention to context. I was talking about cars for me in that paragraph.