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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Another excellent report from Jeff Cobb and http://hybridcars.com

    Model 09/15/16 08/15/16 07/15/16 06/15/16
    1 Prius Liftback 9790 10177 9930 8531
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel* 5385 5235 4310 4437
    3 RAV4 4127 4919 4692 3751
    4 Model S* 4100 3200 2400 2800
    5 Transit Diesel* 3780 4198 3967 5053
    6 Fusion Hybrid 3776 3002 3519 2542
    7 Model X* 2600 1900 1500 2000
    8 Volt 2031 2081 2406 1937
    9 Camry Hybrid 1902 2155 2214 1649
    10 Sonata 1815 1146 1301 1242
    11 Fusion Energi 1652 1422 1341 1700
    12 Prius c 1459 1459 1402 1355
    13 Leaf 1316 1066 1063 1096
    14 Prius v lowercase v...[/B] 1222 1346 1358 1130
    15 Accord Hybrid 1160 890 565 31
    16 Colorado Diesel 1031 832 679 789
    17 C-Max Hybrid 739 879 1112 1486
    18 C-Max Energi 689 707 755 630
    19 Avalon Hybrid 688 775 707 619
    20 CT200h 638 819 849 785
    21 Malibu Hybrid 618 522 416 371
    22 Optima Hybrid 591 654 768 483
    23 e-Golf 529 454 344 248
    24 ES Hybrid 497 692 705 646
    25 X5 482 876 649 583
    26 MKZ 460 541 681 766
    27 i3* 391 1013 1479 608
    28 RX 400 / 450 h 387 574 684 684
    29 Highlander Hybrid 383 506 524 528
    30 Grand Cherokee Diesel 370 368 334 336
    31 500e* 370 311 274 278
    32 Canyon Diesel 358 340 347 335
    33 Spark 315 292 333 359
    34 A3 Plug In 312 346 349 353
    35 Range Rover Sport 290 242 263 231
    36 Sonata Plug In* 275 250 350 200
    37 NX Hybrid 233 224 228 183
    38 Soul EV 217 153 179 134
    39 Range Rover 183 202 241 175
    40 Q50 Hybrid 174 150 112 94
    41 CR-Z 165 222 272 235
    42 i8 158 145 166 169
    43 XC90 Plug In 148 176 178 166
    44 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 131 197 148 176
    45 Focus EV 82 75 58 54
    46 X5 Diesel 80 177 146 257
    47 Pathfinder Hybrid 80 58 55 57
    48 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 79 117 193 214
    49 Jetta Hybrid 76 128 87 44
    50 Mirai 69 371 41 41
    51 QX60 Hybrid 63 65 74 88
    52 3-Series Plug in 54 51 25 25
    53 B-Class Electric 51 57 50 44
    54 3-Series Diesel 50 120 153 136
    55 GLE-Class Diesel 45 67 99 149
    56 forTwo EV 44 55 62 53
    57 S550 Plug In 41 30 32 27
    58 5-Series Diesel 38 65 85 61
    59 Civic Hybrid 38 50 60 62
    60 Lacrosse Hybrid 35 60 55 60
    61 Promaster Van Diesel 32 32 31 21
    62 Panamera S E-Hybrid 28 59 21 22
    63 GLE 550e Hybrid 26 24
    64 RLX Hybrid 24 19 11
    65 i 17 25 20 4
    66 E-Class Diesel 11 30 49 35
    67 GL-Class Diesel 8 48 65 57
    68 Q70 Hybrid 8 9 10 10
    69 X3 Diesel 7 32 73 61
    70 Cruze Diesel 7 7 4 32
    71 LS 600h 6 11 2 1
    72 ELR 6 6 15 94
    73 7-Series ActiveHybrid 5
    74 GS 450h 4 3 12 3
    75 Prius Plug In 4 2 4 11
    76 Tucson 4 2 4 4
    77 E400H 2 1 2 4
    78 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 2 3
    79 Insight 1 9 5 9
    80 Q5 Hybrid 1 2 1 2
    81 ML Class Diesel 1
    82 Regal Hybrid 2 4
    83 GLK Class Diesel 1 1
    84 Impala Hybrid 10


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    looks like they're ramping up accord production, what up with i-3?that's strange, i thought another thread said lift back numbers were increasing.
     
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    The source has a double "**" that my spreadsheet doesn't handle. I'll have to fix it, the spreadsheet, later tonight and post an update next month. I won't get it fixed before I lose the ability to edit the first post.

    Bob Wilson
    I am looking forward to the effect of universal TSS-P on sales.

    Tesla had a good month and this will angst the 'short sellers.' The RAV-4 appears to the hitting a plateau after a remarkable sales growth. The Honda Accord "s*cks less."

    Bob Wilson

     
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    The 2017 i3 has a larger battery option. Perhaps it hasn't arrived yet, and buyers are waiting.
     
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    I am confused about Sept car sales...one thing is PHEV sales should be increasing in CA due to the green HOV stickers. I have felt all year that some (eg; lease companies, auto companies) knew the green stickers were coming so I felt that explained some of the CA PHEV sales pre-Sept.
     
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    It takes about three months to see a true trend. That is why I used four months in the table.

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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The announcement of extending the sticker numbers was only recently, or perhaps you have overestimated the effect the stickers have on nation wide sales.

    At this point, I don't we could tease out if an increase in the next couple months is due to the stickers, or from people getting plug in for the tax credit.
     
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    News reports on the brake recall talk about 340K 2016/2017 Prius liftbacks being recalled globally. Since global 2015 sales were only 203K, sales of the Gen 4 are up very substantially. Japan accounted for 212K, levels not seen there since 2010. Sales outside Japan and the US (i.e. including Canada, Europe and Other) are 34K, already up 119% since last year. Despite negative stories saying otherwise, Prius sales are very healthy.
     
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    it's true, only the u.s. is down substantially. cheap gas?
     
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    Keep in mind that a recalled car doesn't need to be a sold one. How many are simply sitting on a ship or dock right now?

    But yes, gen4 was a big hit Japan, and dieselgate backlash could be pushing people into hybrids in Europe. Cheap gas is an issue in the US, but the increase in SUV and crossover sales aren't just limited to large models. The Rav4 hybrid is doing very well here, and there is a wider selection of models smaller than the Rav4.
     
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    that's still partially cheap gas. even though they are much better than larger vehicles, those vehicles also get a bump from 2 bucks a gallon.
    many people will look at a 35 mpg vs prius at 50 and say it's not worth it. but a 4 bucks, there will be less with that attitude.
     
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    You're talking about mine here, ya know. Due to dock in UK in about a week's time. Expect to get my sticky fingers on it and middle of the month. :sick:
     
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    More Prii will sell with $4 gas, but I'd bet Rav4 hybrid sales would increase at a greater rate. Same with the Camry and Avalon hybrids. While Toyota handling to make the Prius more attractive to other buyers, it and the Prime both have that stand out styling. A return to high gas prices in the near future might help the Ioniq and Niro out more than the Prius.
     
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    Ioniq is already for sale?... :)
     
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    Is US gas $4 a gallon?;)
     
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    Hah, ok, there is always a "in the future" answer for some remarks.

    Example: Ioniq has been proposed to the Car of the Year 2017 award. Deliveries will (in the future, ditto) start in early 2017.
     
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    Seeing how gas here is around $2 a gallon, I assumed my post talking about $4 gas would have been taken as in the future.
     
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    Seeing how gas here is around 1,45€/litre ($1.57/litre) meaning $5.94/gal...The future was already here and many didn't notice... :D
     
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    Sometimes europe today seems like america's future, Sometimes the past.

    Politics and opec being as they are, I see oil heading slowly to $70/bbl. That means more expensive in europe in the future, but in the US, well bellow $4/gallon for at least the next 5 years absent something big and unexpected happening.
     
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    That could be true for telmo744, but in UK the GB pound has fallen near 30% against the US$ and the price of oil is always the good ole greenback! The euro is presently not as weak as the pound in the exchange rate mechanism.
     
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