1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Quesion about mpg as 2016 ages.

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by chenderson2, Sep 9, 2016.

Tags:
  1. chenderson2

    chenderson2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2010
    94
    57
    0
    Location:
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    I am in a bit of a unconventional situation. I had a 2016 Prius 4 which I received in February and only drove it for 3 months before running into a curb. The dealer advised me to trade it in, since it had some rear frame damage. I don't know how much truth there was in that, but I took their advice and bought a new one that was delivered in May. The question I have relates to the mpg I am getting and was getting. On the first car I was getting about 68 mpg, but it had been going down a bit. The second car arrived with an average of 44 mpg displayed. I'm assuming this was due to the driver traveling at speeds of over 70 mph from west Texas to Houston ( it was hand driven rather than trucked.) When the dealer topped off the tank and I reset the meter, it got around 68 mpg for a short period. Since then the mpg has been going down, but leveling off at about 60 mpg.
    Now, the question: Is the lower mpg just because I had one of the better cars to begin with, or is it due to the increase in temperatures and use of more AC combined with the summer blend of fuel? (I do keep the temperature set on 76 degrees and Auto.)
     
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,218
    50,080
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    mpg can be deceiving if you don't track tank averages over a period of time. short term displays only reelect current driving and environmental factors. i wouldn't consider them valid for any analysis.
     
    Coast Cruiser and RCO like this.
  3. krmcg

    krmcg Lowered Blizzard Pearl Beauty

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    2,592
    2,390
    0
    Location:
    Whittier, CA
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    It takes several tanks to spot a real trend. Observing just trips and/or days will give misleading information.
     
    Coast Cruiser and RCO like this.
  4. Roger T

    Roger T Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2014
    198
    48
    0
    Location:
    MA
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Also check tire pressure. Huge factor of fuel mileage.
     
    chenderson2, Coast Cruiser and RCO like this.
  5. DonDNH

    DonDNH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    1,711
    654
    0
    Location:
    Nashua, NH
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    1. Summer blend of fuel has higher BTU content. Mileage will improve with it.

    2. AC use will definitely impact mileage negatively.

    3. Are your tires the same brand? Are they inflated to improve mileage?
     
    Coast Cruiser and RCO like this.
  6. axle2152

    axle2152 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2013
    266
    210
    0
    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    To really track overall MPG trends it will take years and many fuel ups. Tire pressure, fuel blend, outside temperature, climate settings (AC), drive mode, and most importantly the driver. It is likely you settling into the car... I find myself varying on MPG, I once drove it in PWR and normal modes and immediately could see that I would not be able to average the same mileage, just depends on mostly how heavy your foot is.
     
    RCO likes this.
  7. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,557
    10,324
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Since the start of the fuel injection era, none of my cars have had fuel economy degradation as they aged. Absent specific mechanical or maintenance problems or aging battery issues, your Prius should not degrade either.

    Best seasonal MPG should happen with summer fuels, but in the spring or fall when you need neither winter heat nor summer cooling.
     
    RCO likes this.
  8. Blizzard_Persona

    Blizzard_Persona Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    1,787
    945
    0
    Location:
    Pa.
    Vehicle:
    2023 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE
    I would venture to say 60 mpg +\- is about avg if you are actually keeping up with traffic on those high speed TX highways? Heck 60 mpg calculated is pretty damn good and better than advertised!! I just filled up my second full tank post dealer tank and I hand calculated 60.099 mpg's (63.4 displayed I believe) Mind you that entire tank I drove exclusively at 55 mph on DRCC for my commute and actually tried to drive conservatively but did have quite a few shorter trips thrown in the mix on that tank too though.

    It all depends on how you are driving these cars.

    But technically and to a point, assuming consistent fuel efficient driving techniques then your mpg should actually improve slightly over time. I.e. Your car breaks in, the tires have a little less rolling resistance, etc.
     
    Mendel Leisk, RCO and Coast Cruiser like this.
  9. chenderson2

    chenderson2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2010
    94
    57
    0
    Location:
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    YES. I checked and they were all at 30lbs. I increased them all to 40 lbs and am already seeing an improvement. Still only 60-61, but better than the 59 I was getting.
     
    Blizzard_Persona and krmcg like this.
  10. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,044
    7,587
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I always find first tank will give a deceptive reading - fill it again and work it out from then. I suspect the computer does something odd with that first tank, even if the dealer (supposedly) tops it off.

    I've often found my fuel economy improves after 30-40,000km. My theory is that the car has been run in properly, and I've settled into the rhythm of the car, and how to drive it most economically.
     
    RCO likes this.
  11. Roger T

    Roger T Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2014
    198
    48
    0
    Location:
    MA
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Yes! I had like 29 psi at the beginning of the summer this year and i was constantly getting 47-48 mpg (computer MPG minus 2). I inflated them 38/36. Huge difference. Now i am getting 52-55 mpg, depending the traffic. If i drive "spiritually" i get around 50 mpg. I love driving at night with no one around because i can pulse and glide for a long time. I can get 60+ mpg in a trip that way. And i have Gen 3.
     
    #11 Roger T, Sep 9, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2016
  12. goldfinger

    goldfinger Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    535
    402
    0
    Location:
    Buffalo
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Do you recall what tires your first car had versus the second?

    Reading this forum I suspect there's a good deal of variation in the car. Some people get hot ones like your first. I'd love to see the bell curve on this. We need need a bunch of people with the same model, tires, and similar miles to run a fixed course with a single driver.
     
    RCO and bisco like this.
  13. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,218
    50,080
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    without any real testing, i could have sworn i got a couple more mpg in my 2008 than my 2004.
     
  14. Gen 2 Tom

    Gen 2 Tom Active Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2016
    333
    286
    0
    Location:
    Lincoln Park NJ
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I recall your story about hitting the curb. Mine started at 60 MPH and crept up to 66 MPG. And now after the summer. 7K miles, with the air on full time set at 65 it says 63.4. It's never been reset or checked. I run 70 - 80 MPH for 30 miles a day and then another 15 at lesser speeds. No hill climbing.

    So from the dealer it said 44MPG. How did they do that? Maybe they left the car on for 3 days. My brother did that. But after resetting and now your at the 60+ area is good. I think most of us are around there. This is my second new Prius, so it goes down a bit after I start driving more normal. I think we all start seeing what the car will do, then forget about it.
     
    RCO likes this.
  15. chenderson2

    chenderson2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2010
    94
    57
    0
    Location:
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Advanced
    As I said, I believe the driver probably drove it fairly fast coming from Harlingen. I have noticed that after reaching 60 mph, the mpg is almost inversely proportional with the mph.
     
  16. eman08

    eman08 Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2016
    360
    192
    0
    Location:
    US
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    ----USA----
    I do notice the MPG Avg on the MFD is a bit off when I do the math by hand dividing the miles driven by gallons I put in. But the bladder can threw things off too for the 2nd gen as well. Did 338 miles on supposedly 6 gallons of gas I out in about 56.3 MPG while the MDF reads 50.4 MPG.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    RCO likes this.