Contact with Space Aliens

The "Dr" part is that he is a medical doctor, specifically an emergency room trama doctor. The venue is probably some Washington, DC hotel convention center.

 

Indeed. Do they show Peppa Pig in America? It's a five-minute-long kids' cartoon from Britain. It's very funny and very well-observed. Peppa is a pig in a very upper-middle-class family who lives with her mother, father and little brother, and they learn valuable life lessons in every episode.

Here's every episode of Season 2: if you ever have to keep a small child quiet and still for a while, this is your answer.

Anyway, one episode was banned in Australia.

It was an episode where Peppa meets a spider, and she's scared of it. Daddy Pig explains that spiders are good, and we shouldn't be scared of them. The ABC - our national broadcaster - decided that teaching Australian kids not so be scared of spiders was a really terrible idea, given that many of our spiders will kill us just for s--ts and giggles. So they withdrew it.

I got bitten by a spider once, and it paralysed my leg for a couple of days. It was horrible. It bit me while I was asleep, and when I got up and tried to get out of bed, I just fell over. I had to crawl to the toilet. And for those two days, the only way I could get around was by crawling.

Vegemite isn't poisonous. It's just a poor alternative to Marmite, which is proper food.

Yes. But I think cool stars tend to emit more nasties than stars like ours, and if your planet's really close to a star like that, I think there's a limit to what a magnetic field and an atmosphere can block.

 

Peppa is my granddaughter's favorite TV show. She especially likes Muddy Puddles.

 

My niece is a fan of Peppa Pig. I think it airs on the PBS stations here.

From a very brief research session, I think you might be confusing blue with cool; I was. Stars emit across the entire electromagnetic spectrum to some degree. Being blue, a blue star generally emits more in the UV spectrum than a yellow one, but blue stars are hot stars. Cool stars are redder than our sun.

A red star emits more in its stellar wind, and that will likely be a bigger concern to life on this planet than what it emits in the UV and shorter spectrums.. If the planet's magnetic shield can't divert all of it away. Water will be an excellent shield against any energenic particles in the wind. 2.5 meters of water reduces the radiation from a nuclear fuel rod down to background levels.

 

I hope my "HAL-9000" never gets mad at me......

 

One of the obvious aspects of ET craft is that they don't use chemical rockets. Post crash examination of Grey saucers, as well as Charles Hall's view from 20 feet away of a disabled shuttle craft, provide clues. They all seem to use fiber optic coils, similar to what we use in an electromagnet, only with fiber optic. Hall theorizes that the coils are activated with a variety of sub-atomic particles. He observed a standard American microwave oven in a Tall White shuttle craft. The Whites had replaced the door with a coil that contained the microwave radiation. Obviously a simple task with their knowledge.

There are multiple forces activated for propulsion. At least 3 different aspects are involved, mass cancellation, repulsive, and containment. The Tall White craft are dangerous to be too near when powered up. Inside the craft is safe, so there is some sort of isolation from the forces outside the craft. In slow mode, the craft is visible and quiet. Gravity is still centered on the earth, and terrain irregularities are perceptible (bumpy road...). To travel quicker than several hundred mph, they turn on additional fields that provide local gravity and isolation from material outside the craft. The Tall White craft develop a white fuzz around the craft. Gravity inside the craft is normalized to 1G, such that seat belts and the like are unnecessary, despite what look like 15,000 G maneuvers from outside. Other ET craft seem to create an ionized field that is more red or orange.

Steven Greer has witnesses who report that American companies have reverse engineered and developed zero point power units. The problem with releasing them is the overbearing secrecy related to their source. There are also some 5000 patents that have been black holed, many concerning techniques for extracting power from the either. If these technologies could be fully released, fossil fuels would become irrelevant. Even wind and solar would be unnecessary. There are obviously business interests who prefer the current resource extractions.

Interesting presentation on the speed of gravity and ET travel:

 

A Russian radio telescope scanning the skies has observed “a strong signal” from a nearby star, HD164595, in the constellation Hercules.

Alien life, or noise? Russian telescope detects 'strong signal' from sun-like star | Science | The Guardian


Hopefully not just another "wow" signal.

 

is there money to be made in this business? think barnum here.

 

The mothership is late, obviously, since I am still in Ohio. Funny how the grays all call me "Progenitor."

 

HD164595 ETs, had they directed at Earth this signal recently detected, could have done so could have done so only in response to Earth events of 1820s AD or earlier. Round-trip at light speed.

What might have happened around then, to stir interest? Tambora volcano had blown, Napoleon was 'over', steam boats and trains were big deals, colonized US was mostly east of Mississippi R, Darwin was at sea in HMS Beagle.

Nothing obvious to me to lead them to send an 11 gigahertz beam thisaway.

 

I believe this is available as an option on the new Mercedes E Class.

 

I'm not saying any of this is actually the case (of course), but.....

We can now analyse the light coming through other planets' atmospheres to analyse what's in them. Not particularly effectively yet, but give it a few years and we'll be there.

If the HD164595ians (as they call themselves) happened to have found Earth (in the same way that we've now found at least one planet in that system) in the 1820s, and conducted spectral analysis of our atmosphere over a few years, could it be that they'd have noticed a change in the makeup of our atmosphere that suggested the onset of industrialisation? This was, after all, about the time that we decided we should really get serious about burning loads of stuff and messing up our atmosphere. They'd have only have had to have been a tiny bit more advanced than us in terms of astronomy (decades, or maybe years) to be able to observe this. And then they might have thought "Well, if they were industralising 95 years ago, then in 95 years time, they should be getting there with radio astronomy. So let's send them a highly-compressed beam with some mathematical equations and some pictures of our planet and stuff. I hope they can decode them."

 

If we decode the signal and it turns out just to be the HD164595ians telling racist jokes about the HD164596ians, I'll be very disappointed.

 

"We can now analyse the light coming through other planets' atmospheres to analyse what's in them."@113.

I'd rather list this as an aspirational goal. There are 3 aspects here needing to be addressed, and I reckon that our local crew does not wish to go deep/work hard. So sorry.

Could be done, with much better telescopes outside of earth's atmosphere. No gaps appear in technologies of the thing, but making it happen would cost billions. Beyond "do we wish to buy?" is whether this is optimal use of limited funds.

Separately, the issue raised here is whether ET over there could have found our atmosphere itself to carry some meaningful message. I say yes very much, with oxygen (meaning photosynthesis), burning exceeding expectations and Tambora volcano doing quite a lot. They could know this as a biological planet, and with excess burning as a (perverse) indication of intelligence, and that volcanic wild card thrown.

Not entirely odd then that such folks might have transmitted a howdedoo in this direction. Only odd that (as seen so far) 'the message' is towards the edge of what we might be expected to detect, and seems not modulated (information transfer) at all.

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Y'know what's missing here? Let me tell you. HD16 blah de blah may or may not be in a position where Earth transits our Sun's disk from their perspective. If not, they never could chemically decode Earth's atmosphere.

Earth humans could get real physics from media in stories like this. But not, and I don't hear y'all complaining.

 

Well, yes. I did say we weren't particularly effective at this yet, but would be in a few years.

Shouldn't the James Webb telescope get us some way towards this?

Yes. It would seem to make sense that the atmospheric changes could be interpreted by someone else (assuming a disk transit and everything else) as a sign of us being at a certain stage in our development.

Yes. I certainly have my doubts about this one. It seems inconclusive at best.

 

"in a few years"@116. How far does your few stretch?

Webb Telescope will do a lot of dandy things, but not this one I think. Angular resolution? Maybe good enough. Spectral resolution? I don't think it will include enough, because of other mission goals... Angular dynamic range? This seems to be the deal killer. Yonder planet (with atmosphere), just before transiting yonder star, gets its atmosphere 'back lit'. This spectrum is potentially observable, but one can appreciate that the star itself is angular-near (like micro arc seconds) and MUCH brighter. The aspiration is to block that much brighter light. Astronomers will sho nuff to do that to image planets (a few pixels of blob near a star). Image their atmospheres? With high spectral resolution? As that planet swiftly moves in front of the star?

It certainly could be done. Not with JWST. Not without devotion of $$billions. Personally not sure that this is the best use of humanity's funds. We might find an interesting-looking atmosphere, but it would still be 10s to 1000s light years away. And so, the point is?

Look, it can be seen as depressing that stars are so far apart. We so lonely. Only with much-faster-than-light travel could that be assuaged. I am willing to bet all my PriusChat points, and perhaps money besides, that some other guys with fast travel will come here before earth humans figure out how to do it.

RobH says they already have, and fair enough. But why then are we not going out there for a look? The only folks tall whites etc. are willing to commune with are way less curious than the rest of us? Scratching head am I.

 

Ages. I'm still young.

Thanks for the clarification.

The point is knowing. I don't think there has to be a point beyond that.

Yes, I found that odd as well. If I were to meet a Tall White, I would definitely ask if I could pop over to their place for a cup of whatever it is that they drink. And I'd take a camera.

 

There has been some success with accessing free energy. For example, The Nassikas thruster consists of a superconducting coil and a permanent magnet. Once the coil is energized, no further power is required.

Nassikas thrusters are described as reducing a 7 year space travel down to two weeks. Not light speed, but certainly a new ball game.

See

The Nassikas Superconducting Lorentz Thruster: Levitation with essentially zero power draw and heavy payload capability - The Sphinx Stargate

and

There is a link to a Vimeo video that mentions a $2 charge to buy it. Note also that there is a FREE button to the left that also works...

 

Spectroscopy of faraway atmospheres is not the only way to detect faraway life. It specifically would not detect in 4 places NASA leader says to look:

NASA Director Predicts Alien Life Will Be Discovered In 10 Years : Science : iTech Post

Search for microbes. Search for civilizations. Not same. Could do a lot more than now with 'radio listening'.

Yonder backside of moon is very well suited for that, as well as optical astronomy. Also, that is where ET would hang out if wanting to escape notice (a scifi trope that also seems realistic).

To visiting ETs, the idea that we leave that place 'unguarded' would have to seem very naive.