Featured More CA Green HOV Stickers Soon? (Poll)

I think CARB is still wedded to fool-cells and wants to keep any slots for them.

Bob Wilson

 

At this point with the prices coming down for BEVs and longer range affordable ones becoming available before the current expiration data of Jan 1 2019, it makes more sense for BEVs to receive extended White HOV Stickers than for PHEVs to receive extended Green HOV Stickers.

 

The bill is TERRIBLY written, and I hope it doesn't pass. It makes you wonder how out of touch these politicians are with the legislation they are writing.

 

I REALLY don't like the way the new law was written. It has basically put a direct price on HOV access for PHEV's (we'll see what they do with BEV's) for purchasing new (either receive rebate or stickers), and prevents those from purchasing used for being able to use the HOV access for much time since they expire at the end of the 4th year after original purchase.

 

I don't have any issue with the stickers being of little use to second owners. They drove up the price of used, which drives up the price of new. Higher prices means less new PHEVs getting on the old, which is counter to what the incentive is supposedly to encourage; getting more plug ins on the road.

 

Nope - read AB 1964. The attempt is to extend green sticker ONLY. I'd already posted to this effect & the (VERY likely) rational behind it, so it's not worth re-hashing beyond that.

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whoops I obviously didn't read post #10, which was the essence of the article i'd posted earlier. Thx wjtracy for saving me the trouble of finding where i'd buried that. iirc, it was voted on around the 25th of this month.
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The white stickers also cover FCEV's, so odds are it will be extended if CARB has a say.

 

Tesla has pre-sold around 400,000 Model 3's with about 40% of those going to California. They are scheduled to start hitting the road in about one to two years. I am one of those people. I believe that the green stickers will be phased out over the next few years to make room for all the new white sticker cars. The carpool lanes are already getting too crowded now, the way it is. I see a lot of late model Prii that are not PIP's with a green sticker. How did they get those anyway?

 

interesting quandary that CARB's puppet master (the automobile manufacturers nice person'n - GM, Toyota, Ford et al) must find itself in. Does the nice person'n loath EV's & tesla to the point they fear > 400,000 low gas price/pre-ordered model 3's running around the landscape? - (egg on their face so to speak). Naah, I'm sure that extending PHEV/HOV stickers (the Association's preference) while leaving white stickers to expire was just an oversight. Excuse me while I go check Craigslist. Somebody is selling the Brooklyn Bridge, & i don't wana miss out!

Maybe CARB will coincidentally come up with blue/purple colored stickers - especially/only for the few hundred hydrogen-mobiles. That should encourage & discourage just the right folks ... further ensuring we burn more natural gas, as an added benefit ... so the oil companies will jump on board too. Love it
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i can't blame them. if the hov is that crowded, let those who desire it buy bev's. prime is not going to make a big difference in cali smog.

as far as sales go, toyota is targeting the gasser market. so if they want hov access, they can take a rider with them, like anyone else.

 

An interesting point in the news report which has been brought up here before:

But average speeds on nearly half of the Bay Area's 420 miles of carpool lanes are under 45 mph, failing to meet federal performance standards.

As a result, solo FasTrak users are banned from the Highway 237-Interstate 880 express lanes for up to an hour each morning. Transportation officials say the same restrictions are likely on future express lanes on other Bay Area freeways.