Featured Honda Accord Hybrid Returns To U.S.

"0-60 mph is expected to be in the low-7-second range,"

wow, that's very very brisk. impressive.

" The pack sits at the back of the trunk next to the rear seats and prevents them from folding down so there is no possibility of pass-through to the cabin area."

boo. Come on guys, put it under the rear seat or something.

"we did notice that hard acceleration on the freeway resulted in about a two-second delay between foot down and the resulting surge of power"

that's just not safe not to mention annoying.

 

"we did notice that hard acceleration on the freeway resulted in about a two-second delay between foot down and the resulting surge of power"

I believe the 2 second delay was a mental count, and is actually quite shorter than that.
An automatic transmission in lock up will have a delay with a sudden call for more power. Same with turbos.

 

Even our awd hybrid lexus suffers from lag .... definately at least a second. But how often does a hybrid driver really put their foot into it anyway.
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Is that two seconds measured by a stop watch or by a mental count or simply what it felt like?
People are reading the twp second delay as an absolute value when it may not be.

 

There are many excellent smart phone apps that can measure inertial or GPS or record video. Do it right next time.

Bob Wilson

 

Something interesting article Honda Worldwide | February 12, 2015 "Honda Begins Sales of All-New 6-seat "JADE"", for video

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second upholder was cool. we had those on our '89 chrysler minivan. too bad they don't use sliding rear door.
will it ever come to the u.s.?

 

This one worked: Ad Hoc 0-60 mph | PriusChat

Back in January 2010 we had the 'brake pause' problem and at the time I tried using some of the recording G-meter apps. Hopefully they are better now because the "free" one I tested was somewhat lame. Regardless, plug in the vehicle weight and do a 0-max acceleration and they can give some useful metrics. I later used: OFFER: document brake pause problem | PriusChat

I've also been impressed by the video quality Robert Llewellyn achieves with what appears to be 'Go Pro' cameras. Let me suggest experimenting with a clamp to the head-rest or 'bungee cord' to hold it fixed 'looking over the driver's shoulder.

Bob Wilson

 

I doubt it . . . who'd want a 6 seater hybrid anyway. Wait a minute, I would !

I doubt the low profile could support a decent sliding rear door though
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initially - i'd forgotten 3 significant elements of Honda's hybrid history - so - this news of new offerings (clarity plugin & accord hybrid ) was receiced by me with excited anticipation. Then i remembered .... HONDA killing off their Gen1 Insight - & only selling it in 7 or 8 states or so. They claimed no one wanted them - despite high fuel costs during that era. Really ? 60mpg+ ? Ok sure. Yet honda sold everyone they made - no problem. Then there was the traction pack battery debacle. Honda refused to admit they'd over-programmed their cells to run so frequently, that tons of their traction packs were prematurely dying, & not making it to carb's 100-150k minimum warranty period. So mileage started dumping, as the ice had to run harder to compensate for the greater work load. A class action lawsuit insued, because Honda didn't want to make it right on their own. So much for Goodwill. Lastly - to throw a little icing on Honda's cake - their so called prius killer .... the Gen II Insight ... boy, were they ever wrong about that. Is it just me? Or is Honda presuming their prospective audience is so dense that no one remembers their hybrid history. One may want to seriously consider those things before racing out to be first in line. Prius v sales? that might be their least consideration. Just sayin'

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Honda's hybrid rep could be their new models' toughest hurdle. It could be part of the reason they took a hiatus with the Accord hybrid, and delayed the introduction of any of their one motor hybrids. The Jazz may already have had issues with its transmission. With low gas prices in the US, Honda might actually be taking it slow on the hybrid front.

At least for the most part. I think nearly everyone having a midsize hybrid sedan put pressure on them to have the Accord available. Then Toyota rushing to market with the Mirai was pressure to get their next Clarity out. The BEV and PHEV versions will reduce the cost of that to them.

Honda might have had no trouble selling the original Insight, but that is not a good thing if it cost them more to make than the sales price. It was an all aluminum monocoupe. That isn't easy or cheap to make. Even now, it is only seen in luxury or high end sports car brands. There was also some diesel emission controls on the car to handle the lean burn mode. The battery problems also started with the Insight.

In hindsight, Honda should have skipped on the Insight2 and just brought over the Fit hybrid.

 

that's why i'll give honda some time before taking a serious look. right or wrong, these things take 5-10 years to prove themselves out. it's not enough to come the gate with the best mpg's in class according to epa.