Trade in '15 Persona for '16 Two?

Go for it.

 

Don't do it

 

You'll lose too much money and trading to a car that looks less attractive

 

Seems like an easy extra 20+ mpg is possible going from a Persona (Gen 3 w 17's at 40-45 avg mpg) to a Gen4.. Among other things such as much "quicker" regen, a better ride, etc, etc.

I will be heading to the dealership tomorrow myself and will test drive a 2016 Four, and a four Touring.... I was gonna buy an ECO the other day but the dang thing got sold from under me while I was out on the test drive!!

Believe me, I hated the new design when it first came out! It has very much grown on me and you really have to drive one to appreciate all the upgrades..

 

Funny you say that as my dealer has a two in Blizzard pearl with the black interior that has been sitting on the lot for months...

The ECO I test drove that ended up being sold was the Hypersonic Red and had the rubber mats and rubber trunk mat, side moulding and the black interior, exactly what I wanted.. They do have another Hypersonic ECO but it has the harvest beige interior that I Dont think would work for me plus carpets instead of the rubber mats... I know I could order one but I'm pretty sure I would get a better deal from a car thats sitting on the lot. So it seems it's down to a four (with ATP but no PCP), a four touring with PCP or a four with no packages... Do I really need ATP / PCP and is it worth the extra thousands? It would be nice though..

I though about a Three but the color combos they have that I would consider have silly add ons I don't want thus jacking up the price considerably, In essence for just 1.5k more I can get a base four at that point..

 

I just replaced my 4½ yr old car - about about 1½ yrs later than I'd planned to due to various reasons. I get people coming up to me "but your old car was only new". I tell them that I've replaced cars at about 3yr old in the past - some can't understand it.

So it depends entirely on your point of view, your needs, and what you would like, and if you can afford it go for it. Yes, you'll lose some resale, but in another year or 2, you'll lose even more.

 

Yeah your right, a base two makes the most economical sense probably, plus it has a spare tire and a rear wiper! I might have to rethink this whole thing and see if they might blow out that two for cheap since it has been sitting and save a few grand in the process....Thats a whole heck of a lot of gas!! As we know the Nav does kinda suck at times and xm radio can be added at a later date so thats not a huge deal..

I guess I really just wanted the new and improved Li Ion battery that the eco has, 3 door SKS, better tires and nicer hubcaps, solar windshield supposedly, plus for some weird reason the full hub caps on the base two just are so darn plain. Trivial I know but I guess my thinking was go for the gusto and get the model that gets the absolute best mpg as proven by Fuelly..

The fours are nice because of the softex, better tonneau cover, etc, etc, But again no spare tire..

A three seems like a sensible compromise but cloth seats only unless you get a three touring..

See what I mean, confusing.

If you know that you want a Two, then that definatly simplifies things on your end unlike my indecisive self..lol!

 

There was a lot of discussion about whether Li-ION battery is much better than Ni-MH, and I thought the jury was still out. I haven't seen any correlation between MPG with either battery. Most of the world doesn't have a choice - Japan can only get Li-ION, USA has a choice depending on model, everyone else gets Ni-MH. The Ni-MH is a new design for 2016.

I don't know where the 300 lbs heavier was sourced? The new Ni-MH battery is 39lbs lighter than previous Prius. Car&Driver say "At 54 pounds, the new Li-ion battery weighs 35 pounds less than the NiMH battery." Which means that the NiMH battery must weigh 89lbs. The usable power capacity of both batteries is basically identical.

TOYOTA says "New Lithium-Ion or Nickel-Metal Hydride Hybrid Batteries -
The new Prius will be available with either a new lithium-ion or a new nickel-metal hydride hybrid battery. While the batteries use established technology, Toyota has succeeded in increasing their energy density, which means more power can be obtained from a smaller unit. This in turn has allowed the battery to be relocated beneath the rear seat, increasing cargo space."

 

The Hypersonic Red Touring Four with PCP is to die for but not in.

 

The 300lbs can't possibly be right - everywhere I've read has said that the Li-ION battery is 35 pounds less than the Ni-MH pack. The Ni-MH battery is only 89lbs itself.

The old Gen3 battery was 93lbs - the Plug-IN Prius had approx 180lb battery.

Overall weight of a Prius Two and a Prius Two ECO are 3075lbs and 3010lbs respectively (from TOYOTA's USA Specifications) - which isn't 300lbs extra.

The 2 batteries in 2016 Prius are approximately the same power, but the Li-ION is lighter, smaller and is essentially worked harder due to different design.