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Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by jettlash1000, Jun 25, 2016.

  1. jettlash1000

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    I just realized my window sticker says I don't need an oil change until 10,000 miles. First of all, is that true, what is everyone here doing? Secondly, does anyone know if these cars are shipped with synthetic oil? 10,000 miles just seems way too long for a guy that's so anal about maintenance.

    Also, a new highway MPG video is up :)


     
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    10000 miles was also drain interval on Gen3.
    Yes I would assume you got OEM the correct oil for 10k drain interval.
    Toyota oil is considered very high quality.
     
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    You can half that interval, follow the "extreme service", no one's stopping you. Also, it's 1 year or 10,000 miles, and/or 6 months or 5,000 miles, whichever comes first.

    In Canada the interval was 6 months or 8,000 kilometers (roughly 5,000 miles), until the 2016, which (according to @Tideland Prius ) has the same interval as the US.

    First weekend in April and October does it for me. I use Toyota's 0W20, buy it in bulk for $4.50 (Can) per liter.
     
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  4. Tideland Prius

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    Yes. The Canadian oil change interval is now 12 months/16,000km (10,000 miles) but the service interval is still 6 months/8,000km (5,000 miles). I guess they just top up the fluids and oil the hinges lol.

    If it's running full synthetic, 10,000 miles is fine. That's the service interval for German cars since they run full synthetic.
     
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    In EU is 15.000km/1year checks and oil changes for the lifetime of the vehicle. So yes, 10k miles is correct.

    Regarding the video, thanks for posting and a few comments:

    1) were you driving flat or hilly terrain?

    2) 70mph is 112km/h which is GPS true speed of how much? 70mph is "slow" for EU highway speeds. But you were fully loaded (4 passengers, A/C full blast if I understood correctly (did you really need to do that? Setting it at 71F/22C in Auto wouldn't have worked as well?), so it in any case an excellent mpg.

    3) what was the average speed at the end of the trip reported by the car? (Could not seem to see it in the video)

    3) next weekend I am going to drive to Switzerland from Munich, Germany. It is hilly highway all the way with lots of elevation changes, lots of traffic and 2-3 forced stops at the borders of Austria and Switzerland (more slow downs than stops, they don't really check anything in Switzerland, and in Austria but I need to stop to buy toll stickers for both Austrian and Swiss. Highways and cross border Austria/Switzerland is thorough a village....). Really curious to see what my new baby will do, considering it has not broke in yet (just travelled 200km so far) and compare that with my records for the same route with similar temps done with the Gen3.

    By the way, this is what it did going from
    Munich to its airport this Friday, which is about a third city on expressways at 50-60km/h, a good abundant third of highway at 130-150km/h (didn't go any faster because not broke in yet; this is why EV ratio is so low... ;) ), and the rest at about 90km/h and entering a big garage (which was all electric and because the trip wasn't too long, averaging zero fuel consumption for 1km in the garage does make the fuel consumption go down 0,1-0,2 L/100km):
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    4,3 is 54,5mpg....29C is 84F and 71km/h is 44mph.
    I have to compare that with the Gen3 when I get home tonight, but looks really good to me!
     
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    Nice drive. Very scenic.
    I used to get over there...visited Konigsee and all.
    Best thing is fly from Munich to Italy over the Alps on a clear day.
    On the border between Austria, and you can just walk or drive over the small bridges now.
    The old border crossing gate houses are still there but closed up.
    Tell you what though, I usually just pay for a taxi driver with powerful diesel to get me around.
     
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    1) It's actually fairly hilly here
    2) GPS clocked an average speed of 67, and we had the a/c set at 73 with eco mode off, which was giving me a score of 2/5 most of the way home
    3) I'd be curious to know how that trip of yours goes.

    I'll be curious to see how the car does when the temps fall below 0 degrees F.
     
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    Good to know! I may just follow the manual then and not worry about it! My '07 Corolla's oil looked new after 5k miles, so I guess oil technology is just that good now.
     
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    More so since the engine in the Prius isn't used as often (but of course it depends on how often the start/stop occurs when the engine is warm and when the engine is cold)
     
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    My return trip yesterday from the airport yielded the exact same fuel consumption essentially as I would get with Gen3:
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    Considering I have travelled with my Gen4 only 250km, there is room for improvement hopefully as it breaks-in. I hope.
    This morning in city traffic I got about 20% less fuel consumption compared to Gen3.
    I'd say I am getting so far anything between 0-20% less fuel consumption.
     
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    ...also the older conventional wisdom of the need for a quick first oil drain (eg; to remove iron particles from the new engine) seems to be not needed at least for Prius. Gotta admit I still have intuitive feeling to need to change early the first time.
     
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    cheap insurance - I do it with every new vehicle.
     
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    I hear you!

    I have too, and the dealer always gives me crap for it!
     
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    i changed at 5k, then, every 10k or once a year, whichever comes first. i just had my fifth change with mobil 1 at 42k. keep in mind, my engine only has 14k in hybrid mode.
     
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    Wifes just rolled past 5k miles . Still stalling on the oil change, she wanted to take it in lol

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    ....that'll make a good quality used PiP one day
     
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    I did my first change at 10k. Bought the car new. My oil was darker than I would have liked, so I will change mine at 5k intervals from now on. Takes less than 20 minutes, costs less than 32 dollars.
     
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    I always use the 5K interval as oil changes are cheap at around $58 and I always get a $10-20 coupon.
     
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