Why I won't buy a Tesla Model 3

Good to hear and for Musk to put the question to rest.

It's amazing how "free" charging has turned otherwise reasonable people into something curious to behold. Any economist would say "told you so".

 

socialized car charging. sooner or later, the you know what is going to hit the fan.

did they give away free gas when cars first came along? how long did that last?

 

So there will be a supercharge package that should enable long distance travel. Guess that means they'll use geocaching to bill you if you abuse SCs local to your address. The next question is what is the cost of the long-distance SC option? $2k I'm guessing.

 

I wonder if they will have one time charge options.

 

Yes, pay per super charge or buy lifetime charge package with Model 3, no cost details yet.

 

Running on electricity is not just about the money you know ? If you travel a lot a Tesla will worth it. If not you'd be better with a Leaf Gen2 or Bolt, they will probably be cheaper after model 3 options added.

 

Some new cars didn't even get delivered to the customer with a full tank of gas a few years ago.

 

i like how they make a big deal out of it. you drop 20, 30, 40k on a car, and they 'give' you 20, 30, 40 bucks worth of gas.

 

I'd guess the cost to supercharge activate would be even higher. After all, $2,000 is how much it costs to activate the way-more expensive/much higher profitabiluty 60 & 70 kwh Model S's.
Believe me, this is for the best. There are too many dead beat leeches out there looking to save a nickel every chance they can get. Way-too easy access would diminish use - as some inconsiderate people will simply use the Stalls for parking.

how do you figure? An ICE car of this size would typically get maybe 25mpg. I read somewhere the average supercharger user (& not all Tesla owners fit that pigeonhole) is traveling 18000 miles a year. Here in So cal where most of the M3's will be purchased, that size gasser would represent 700 gallons of gas/yr. We are paying roughly $3 a gallon right now in many places here & it won't be long before it hits $4 again. At $3 that 700 gallons is already over $2,000 in one year. But the real point that you missed was that no one is buying a Tesla with the notion they're going to be saving money on gas. There are a handful of reasons folks will buy them, but gas simply ain't one of them.
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It's going to be hard enough to finance the base model much less the max battery pack. I will have to forgo it if it's as cost prohibitive as you're insinuating, I'm afraid. Only driving 12k miles per year, I would never see a return on that investment (short of gas hitting $10/gallon at which point I'll be walking anyway, probably to the soup kitchen). It's too bad the inconsiderate idiots have to ruin it for the rest of us.

The thing is, the scale of the Model 3 should make it possible for them to offer the long-distance lifetime travel option at a lower cost than early Model S builds of which they only sold a handful. Those who Supercharge abuse locally would get reprimands of some kind. I don't know for sure how they could make it stick without hitting said abusers in the pocketbook, though.

Honestly, this probably just raised the optioned out price above the presumed $70k. Not exactly a total cost that conveys an image of mass market.

 

What "Presumed $70k"? Are you talking about the Model 3?
$70k is a fantasy unless you are talking about getting the highest sports performance package, carbon fiber trim, etc and even then that is a stretch.
If you are a two car household, keep one gas burner and have one BEV.
If you are a one car household and can't afford the Model 3, get a plugin vehicle with enough electric range for your daily commutes, then you can use that gasoline when you travel.

We have no idea what the Supercharger fee will be for the 3. It may be $500, although I would expect higher. Thee only reason people are mentioning $2000 is that was the option cost 3-4 years ago on the Model S.
The price is to offset the cost. I don't see the Model 3 owners using the Superchargers less than the Model S owners if the SCs are free/included in the price of the car. As such, I don't see the price of the option going down all that much.

 

I'm not sure if $35k qualifies as "low cost" in a lot of people's mind. And they never really hid the fact $35k was the stripped down bare bones model. It seems you truly have some strong bias against Tesla. Maybe you've outlined why in other posts that I've missed.

 

Some dealers and manufacturers where giving out prepaid gas cards during the 2008 gas price spike.

The lifetime Supercharger access was never going to be included on a base Model 3. The planned S40 and early S60(not Volvos) trims didn't include it. But it seems many might have had that hope.

 

my father says edison used to give away free light bulbs. it's a suckers game.

 

so....... it's ok to be able to find a $20k + price swing on a stripped prius versus the most expensive ones - or even a 200% difference between a stripped Prius & a fully optioned-similar sized lexus hybrid .... that's ok. And there's no such price swings at GM ... like the Chevy Chevette vs Caddy SUV, or the Festiva vs the Expedition ... & there's no such concept of "You pay more, you get more". Jeez - must be nice ... concocting whatever reality one needs to justify their hatred of a US auto manufacturer. Can't wait for the next pearl of wisdom. Never-mind the fact that the high-end Tesla price for the model 3 hasn't even yet been announced.
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Is buying something off an endcap at the grocery store a sucker's game?
How about buying something at eye level?
Or buying something who's price ends in a seven?
Or buying two of something to get a third free?
Or buying a package, when you don't really want to buy all the items in the package?

These are all marketing tricks, as is giving away electricity, or gas, or light bulbs.
I wouldn't call them a "sucker's game" though.

 

difference of opinion i guess.