2017 on toyota.com

The metallic is showing as available, but only with ATP.

 

If those are the only changes, it would tend to confirm the stories that Toyota is not going to be investing in future improvements to the v line. One would expect that some of the electronic safety systems should change as they are required for the highest safety ratings in '17 IIRC.

 

My guess is that the early deployment of the 2017 v is an attempt to increase sales before the v is discontinued in line with previous reports in the automotive press.

 

I noticed the 2017 Prius v has a slightly reduced estimated mpg. 2017 = 43/39; 2016 = 44/40.
I hope Toyota does not discontinue the v. My 2013 has been a perfect vehicle for my needs, except for the terrible nav system.

 

Some time back someone predicted a new v in 2018. Not changing much for 2017 is in line with that.

 

Do you have the latest maps and the latest app. I found that made enough of a difference I no longer need to use my portable GPS. I'd like to have the display in front of me as on some of the Porsche and Audi models I've seen. Looking over and down drags my eyes dangerously away from where I should be looking.

 

Had fun reading the 2017 Prius v brochure. Like the auto folding side view mirrors. Miss gen 4 improvements.

I found this at the very end before disclaimers;

"CARS BUILT FOR THE WAY YOU LIVE

At Toyota, we build cars for how you live. From building advanced safety features designed to help prevent crashes to driving cross-country to understand how we can make your driving experience better, our work starts with understanding your needs. Building cars for how you live also means thinking about tomorrow—from fuel efficiency and environmental innovations, to things beyond cars, like a bicycle that you can control with your mind. And because what we learn building cars can help improve lives in other places, we do things like help communities rebuild their homes quickly after a disaster and work with soup kitchens to help them serve more people faster. Toyota. Built for how you live. Together we are going places."

It got really weird for me in the middle because when I think about tomorrow and things beyond cars I'm thinking jet pack. Also, doesn't your brain control your bicycle via balance. Think right turn .. CRASH?

How does building cars teach you to rebuild homes and work with (not in) soup kitchens. I envision some modern times assembly line shenanigans.

 

A trivial change mathematically/financially. A major drop psychologically for potential buyers of the 2017 Prius v at 39 mpg for the highway rating. My other car, a Corolla Eco, is rated at 42 highway. I didn't do the research but there are probably a dozen non-hybrids doing better than 39 highway. The Prius v won't be around for 2018, in my opinion.

 

Feel free to list the station wagons that get over 39 MPG.

 

You are correct about station wagons not getting 39 mpg. What I've found after owning a Prius v and a Corolla for nearly 3 years, the Prius v station wagon does not add much utility. The interior room is the same for the v and the Corolla. I've loaded both with 5 passengers and luggage and it's a tie and the highway mileage is about the same. The Prius does do much better in the city.

I did find the latest sales numbers for the Prius v. The sales for April 2016 were 1322, down 46% from last year. Looks like the Prius v is a sales fail.

 

I often have room for one passenger, and my cargo. And to be honest I have delicate cargo in the passenger seat. I can get multiple ladders in a v. I can get 2 weeks of luggage in a v. I can get all the gear I need to run my business in a v. it was much tighter in a Liftback.

Looking at reviews, 67 cubic feet of cargo versus 13 for the Corolla.

96 ten inch cheesecakes does not obstruct your vision


It was tight fitting the ladders in the Liftback Prius. I hated having the dirty end towards the seats, but that is the way the roof sloped.

 

"...interior room same as a Corolla..."
That's a bit difficult to believe.
The luggage capacity of the v is outstanding.
Even driver head and shoulder room seem larger in a v.

Yet discontinued or not...we chose a v because there are few station wagon choices...and we rule out the German brands.
Cadillac v would be nice but 15 mpg is a little harsh.

 

Show me a car with the utility of the v, the MPG in actual numbers, the typical maintenance costs and the price. Can you fit a 6 foot Xmas tree in a Corolla? Or my typical Costco run of $400+? Or even tomorrows recycling run? Don't know why the EPA highway figures are now so low, my last tank included 2 trips at 70 miles per hour on cruise most of the way with A/C auto to 50 miles away with two people and a full trunk. 41.9 MPG.

 

marketing. they are taught to 'stretch the truth' in university.

 

Seems like all major corporations have been taken over by activists lately. Toyota's main raison d'etre is now soup kitchens...