Vote - Guess the new PiP EV range

This is a confusing response. GM creates and markets a second generation Volt nationwide. You call this stupid. Toyota does not market the PiP nationwide and ceases production before a second generation is available. You call this brilliant.

This is not a discussion of Toyota's quality, but a discussion of all the roadblocks Toyota issues to prevent me from buying one. I can only conjecture if Toyota went to great lengths to ensure you could not have gotten your PiP, you would call them the smartest company in the universe. I obviously don't see the situation the same way you do.

 

BTW I wonder if there could be multiple ranges (battery size options)

 

i haven't read any, can you direct me?

 

yes.

 

I missed that. All I see is that it's a Prius. Everyone seems to be speculating it's a PiP.

 

Toyota Reveals Prius Family of Vehicles at the North American International Auto Show | Toyota

Note the official Toyota statement of the last paragraph:
"The Plug-in will be initially offered in 14 West and East Coast states (Arizona, California, Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, Virginia and New Hampshire) where nearly 60 percent of all Prius models are currently sold. Availability in all remaining states will be a year later."

 

check out the '2G prius plug in reveal' thread. do you think danny's lying? or the new reveal is the gen4 prius?

 

apologies, i thought you were talking pip 2 like the rest of us in this thread.

 

The range of the second generation PiP is a worthwhile discussion topic...if you can buy it. Will it be for every state or just a handful? That question is not really a tangent.

 

yes it is, but i understand your concern. i would not be happy if it were not for sale in massachusetts. but florida has a lot of other things going for it.

 

It probably is a PiP. Just saying we've got nothing direct from Toyota saying it is.

That thread is getting pretty long but OP started with this question.

 

uncle.

 

The only person saying PIP in that link is not with Toyota. I don't care one way or the other, but it just seems like we're running with reporters' speculation.

I'd suspect the tail light of a 2nd PIP iteration would look just like the 2016 Prius.

 

I voted for 18-21miles because:

A) I think that's about all the spare room the Gen4 will have to accommodate the larger battery yet not intrude on cabin space.

B) That's the range on my CMax and it works well. For instance, I only used about 20 gallons of gas last year of which most was burned on out of town trips while nearly 100% of city driving was torquey, silent EV.

 

do you respect danny's tweet?

 

Danny's saying it is, I guess it is. Just not seeing it in those news articles.

 

agreed, no formal pronouncement from toyota. i guess we'll find out wednesday.

 

HybridCars.com Jeff Cobb's article says Toyota said the PiP2 is being shown...that's how the whole thing got rolling I thought