1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Vote - Guess the new PiP EV range

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by Redpoint5, Mar 16, 2016.

?

How many EPA rated EV miles do you think the new plug-in Prius will have?

  1. Less than 14 (23km)

    2 vote(s)
    2.8%

  2. 14-17 (23-27km)

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%

  3. 18-21 (28-34km)

    24 vote(s)
    33.8%

  4. 22-25 (35-40km)

    20 vote(s)
    28.2%

  5. Greater than 25 (40km)

    24 vote(s)
    33.8%
Page 1 of 6
  1. Redpoint5

    Redpoint5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    1,026
    509
    0
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    There are many who speculate the EV range of the upcoming Prius plug-in, and the range estimates are all over the place. Considering the current PiP has an EPA rating of 6 EV miles, and 11 "blended" miles, what do you think the EV only range will be on the next generation PiP?
     
    #1 Redpoint5, Mar 16, 2016
  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    if epa rated pip 1 at 6, then i'm guessing 12, if the testing hasn't changed. however, if toyota changed the engine trigger points based on the testing, so that pip 1 could have gotten 11, i'll go with 22, basically double the range, based on battery size and tech improvements.

    if epa changed the testing, all guesses are off.
     
    #2 bisco, Mar 16, 2016
    OldNSlow, Sergiospl and Tracksyde like this.
  3. Sergiospl

    Sergiospl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    3,938
    1,351
    28
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    #3 Sergiospl, Mar 16, 2016
  4. ETC(SS)

    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    7,855
    6,655
    0
    Location:
    Redneck Riviera (Gulf South)
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    F.) Less than a G2 Volt.
     
    #4 ETC(SS), Mar 16, 2016
    Silver bullit, Danny, Ashlem and 3 others like this.
  5. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,340
    3,596
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I said 18-21 because I was the lowest at the time. My thinking is they need 11 for CARB but I think they need more to qualify for HOV if it comes back. I am thinking 20 gives them 20 if someone says they need 20 to qualify.
     
    #5 wjtracy, Mar 16, 2016
    Sergiospl likes this.
  6. Sergiospl

    Sergiospl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    3,938
    1,351
    28
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    #6 Sergiospl, Mar 16, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2016
  7. SAronian

    SAronian Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    334
    144
    0
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    Impress or get off the plug 25+
     
    #7 SAronian, Mar 16, 2016
  8. Sergiospl

    Sergiospl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    3,938
    1,351
    28
    Location:
    Florida
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    Only Hyundai (27) if one does not mind 40 mpg gas. Compare Side-by-Side
     
    #8 Sergiospl, Mar 16, 2016
  9. SAronian

    SAronian Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2013
    334
    144
    0
    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Vehicle:
    Other Electric Vehicle
    Model:
    N/A
    ...and a 9.9 cu. ft. trunk
     
    #9 SAronian, Mar 16, 2016
    Sergiospl likes this.
  10. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I'd like to see 22 to 25 miles, and I think that is what it needs to be competitive and appeal to the larger market.

    The Energi's are at 20 now, and we'll see their next gen sooner rather than later. The Ioniq should be around the same range as the Sonata PHEV. The majority of the sub 20 mile range ones seem to be power hybrids or compliance cars.
     
    #10 Trollbait, Mar 16, 2016
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    gen 1 pip in 50 states would sell about as well as anything else.
     
    #11 bisco, Mar 16, 2016
  12. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,340
    3,596
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Agree think they need to match Energi because there is anti-Toyota sentiment if they do not come up to the USA competition minimum bar (eg; for CA HOV).
     
    #12 wjtracy, Mar 16, 2016
  13. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    are we talking from 6 or 11?
     
    #13 bisco, Mar 16, 2016
  14. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,871
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    > 0 (0km)
     
    #14 JimboPalmer, Mar 16, 2016
    Redpoint5 likes this.
  15. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    22,447
    11,760
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I agree if they had rolled it out back then. But now the Volt and Leaf have longer ranges, the Energi's will receive a redesign not long after the new Prius PHEV reaches market, and there are others now available.
     
    #15 Trollbait, Mar 16, 2016
  16. mmmodem

    mmmodem Senior Taste Tester

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2011
    2,732
    1,703
    0
    Location:
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Zero. :confused: I don't think there will be a Gen 2 PiP. Hope, I'm wrong.
     
    #16 mmmodem, Mar 16, 2016
  17. wjtracy

    wjtracy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2006
    11,340
    3,596
    1
    Location:
    Northern VA (NoVA)
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    ...you saw the big thread about NY roll-out next week right? I know it still might not come to fruition as far as sales but the car is here.
     
    #17 wjtracy, Mar 17, 2016
    mmmodem likes this.
  18. Redpoint5

    Redpoint5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    1,026
    509
    0
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I was wondering who would say, "One dollar, Bob". It was you!
     
    #18 Redpoint5, Mar 17, 2016
  19. Maarten28

    Maarten28 Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    415
    224
    1
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    IMHO Toyota should make a full electric Prius.
     
    #19 Maarten28, Mar 17, 2016
    sd1810 likes this.
  20. Redpoint5

    Redpoint5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2013
    1,026
    509
    0
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Yeah, but don't call it a Prius, and purpose build it to maximize the EV components rather than shoehorn in something into a petrol platform.

    Unfortunately Toyota has placed their bet on hydrogen, so they don't have the resources or the motivation to put into an EV. I suspect they will be playing catch-up in the near future, although they are hoping other manufacturers will be playing catch up on hydrogen tech.
     
    #20 Redpoint5, Mar 17, 2016
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 6