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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    The January Dashboard is available: January 2016 Dashboard

    But due to an unfortunate hardware failure (cooling fan wore out,) the summaries will take a couple of days. It also gives me time to rework the spreadsheet:

    Model 16_01 15_12 15_11 15_10
    1 Prius Liftback 6333 10153 8287 9611
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel 3193 4531 3848 4283
    3 RAV4 1973 1430 64
    4 Prius c 1763 2861 2601 3373
    5 Fusion Hybrid 1373 1960 1388 2050
    6 Model S 1300 3100 2100
    7 Camry Hybrid 1256 1861 1964 2545
    8 Prius v (lowercase v) 1205 2040 1643 2128
    9 Volt 996 2114 1980 2035
    10 Sonata 964 1138 931 1342
    11 RX 400 / 450 h 790 1493 958 514
    12 Leaf 755 1347 1054 1238
    13 C-Max Hybrid 637 837 815 912
    14 CT200h 622 1464 984 1077
    15 ES Hybrid 622 1443 833 895
    16 Avalon Hybrid 583 933 798 993
    17 Fusion Energi 581 1058 944 849
    18 MKZ 491 867 676 646
    19 Optima Hybrid 469 870 844 1262
    20 Model X 400 177 15 10
    21 Highlander Hybrid 375 516 318 375
    22 Range Rover 366 387 283
    23 C-Max Energi 350 579 639 695
    24 e-Golf 328 609 472 596
    25 A3 Plug In 327
    26 Range Rover Sport 272 417
    27 Grand Cherokee Diesel 263 420 341 321
    28 XV Crosstrek Hybrid 261 425 319 211
    29 NX Hybrid 245 364 196 188
    30 XC90 Plug In 226 74 7 1
    31 500e 217 174 231
    32 CR-Z 192 316 236 316
    33 i3* 182 1422 723 986
    34 X5 181 607 167
    35 Q50 Hybrid 175 281 189 381
    36 Sonata Plug In 175
    37 Civic Hybrid 161 263 239 455
    38 GL-Class Diesel 149 284 258 245
    39 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 146 137 121 126
    40 Spark 139 152 166 177
    41 QX60 Hybrid 119 249 149 220
    42 Lacrosse Hybrid 118 145 194 199
    43 GLE-Class Diesel 117 215 185 179
    44 Colorado Diesel 108
    45 Soul EV 81 96 83 109
    46 Accord Hybrid 71 223 289 442
    47 3-Series Diesel 69 247 188 225
    48 ELR 67 135 67 82
    49 Focus EV 66 96 93 126
    50 Pathfinder Hybrid 65 84 102 168
    51 X3 Diesel 60 186 103 105
    52 B-Class Electric 58 97 41 81
    53 E-Class Diesel 52 82 100 104
    54 5-Series Diesel 51 215 85 72
    55 Canyon Diesel 50
    56 forTwo EV 48 179 178 75
    57 Jetta Hybrid 46 65 52 64
    58 Cruze Diesel 41 69 218 202
    59 i8 32 656 118 149
    60 Panamera S E-Hybrid 27 16 33 28
    61 X5 Diesel 25 207 525 296
    62 Promaster Van Diesel 21 43 28 21
    63 Insight 19 22 30 53
    64 S550 Plug In 19 35 21 25
    65 Cayenne Diesel 18 76 176 356
    66 Impala Hybrid 12 12 1 11
    67 GLK Class Diesel 11 24 33 46
    68 Prius Plug In 10 22 44 91
    69 Q70 Hybrid 10 16 14 14
    70 GS 450h 5 3 5 7
    71 ML Class Diesel 5 16 7 10
    72 LS 600h 3 3 1
    73 Q5 Hybrid 3 13 7 5
    74 Regal Hybrid 3 8 9 11
    75 7-Series Diesel 2 14 1 2
    76 i 2 9 4 9
    77 7-Series ActiveHybrid 1 1
    78 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 1 7 2 1
    79 Civic (CNG) 1 25
    80 E400H 1 1

    I take no joy in the loss of the cheat-diesels because as legal-diesels there would have been sales. Regardless, it gives me a chance to refine my 'long in the tooth' spreadsheet.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Yikes its ugly. Down to a take rate in january of 1.84% in 2016, vs 2.21% in 2015, 2.73% in 2014, and 3.33% in 2013. The only bright spots are the toyota/lexus hybrid SUVs the Rav4/NXh sold 2218 versus 163 when only the nxh was available in january 2015. The bigger older brother hihy/RXh sold 1165 versus a dismall 789 in 2015. The smaller hybrid pond is good for toyota's market share and it is up over 75% a big just from 2013. Still I'm sure they would rather have sold more cars with a more competitive market that they had back then.
     
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    Japan January 2016 Sales

    #1 Prius Toyota - 21,036
    #2 Aqua Toyota - 12,720
    #3 Sienta Toyota - 9,814
    #4 Note Nissan - 8,335
    #5 Fit Honda - 7,291
    #6 Demio Mazda - 6,947
    #7 Voxy Toyota - 6,699
    #8 Serena Nissan - 5,738
    #9 Corolla Toyota - 5,734
    #10 Vezel Honda - 5,584
     
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    Some are blaming the January snow storms on the low sales. Living in Dixie, I don't have a dog in that fight. However, the storm and floods might have moved more folks to higher-riding, four-wheel drive vehicles. You know, something like a RAV4 hybrid which did very well.

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    no snow compared to 2015. we're in the middle of another 3-5" 'duster'.

    the poor weather channel people are roaming the country trying to hype every snowflake they can find.:p
     
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    Hummm . . . .<mumble mumble> the flakes just arrived in New Hampshire. I understand local TV and radio has become useless and phones are having their ringers turned off.

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    That doesn't explain the take rate or why auto sales did fine.

    Low gas prices may have moved people from efficient cars to crossovers and SUVs
    January 2016 U.S. SUV And Crossover Sales Rankings - Top 97 Best-Selling SUVs In America - Every SUV Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR
    The segment grew 6.4% as hybrids fell 17.2% from january a year earlier. Rav4 and nissan rogue led the pack. I doubt its snow, that happens all the time in january and was worse last year, and it didn't keep people out of dealerships. Low gas and more desirable designs have to be the reason.

    Rav4 hybrid did alright, but it many is fighting a diminished field of hybrids and it had less than a 10% take rate. That won't turn hybrid sales around.
     
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    FEBRUARY 2016 has reportedly been HOT month for car sales!
    Let's see how Gen4 Prius does, although I don't know if enough Gen4 vehicles were out there yet.
    Looks like Feb/Superbowl was good timing for Gen4 launch though.
     
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    Good time for the launch would have been october. Not much avilablity right now. Nation wide availablity in april is likely which means people will report good summer mpg. Stil they missed the best selling months. I expect higher sales than the dismal 2015 ones, but I don't think we will be back near high liftback sales this year.
     
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    Interpretation? Slower Prius sales than might be expected? note c,v really off I think (off course PiP too). Maybe artifact of 2016 still getting out to dealers as far as LB. Looks like LB will need to shine otherwise c,v really off big despite high car sales..

    ...are c,v off due to supply issues or just slow sales? Or the new Gen4 LB stealing sales?
     
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    The prius v is dated comapred to the camry hybrid, fusion hybrid, sonata hybrid, rav4 hybrid and station wagon off a 7 year old design (gen III prius) isn't going sell well.

    prius c (aqua) still sells well in japan, but its down as its not as shiny as the gen IV prius. I think lack of availability of the gen IV may send people to buy other cars instead of stay waiting.

    Mirai has leased 56 so far this year.

    On plug-ins
    Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard
    Tesla and Chevy did well. Nissan is hurting but probably only until the gen II. BMW is the surpise bad performer. February looks like it will be bellow 2014, with bmw not making up for the missing prius phv. 2014 gets much easier to beat at the end of the year. It should be easy, but bad i3 sales, with low inventory is a bad surprise.
     
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    The 30 kWhr models are at my local Nissan dealer. I test drove one a week ago, Saturday.

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    Those are a nice stop-gap, but they aren't the second gen.
    Nissan has been very tight lipped about the second gen, with a few mentions of 150-200 mile ranges.
     
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    Numbers say people are waiting. Ford had a blow out month to make up for the bad bmw numbers. 7881 compared to 7030 in 2014. Its going to be a good year. volt should have national inventory of the 2017 volt, with tesla pushing out S and X to make the quarters numbers. Hopefully bmw picks up some slack. Low gas prices don't seem to be denting plug-ins.
     
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    doesn't seem like much of a bump for tesla, is that what they forecast?

    i read today they are having supply problems?
     
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    OK good point I see now RAV4 Hybrid (abbrev R4H?) sold 4400 units stealing from v.

    OK so if you add Prius + R4H not too shabby for Jan/Feb
     
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    Article from a known short. They predicted doom for Tesla back in 2013 as well.

    Ramp up for the X is ongoing.
     
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    right. they just lie about anything to get followers?
     
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    I'm not sure if they door not.

    All I'm saying is that they have sung this song before, and been wrong before.
    Could they be right this time? Sure they could, but I don't think so. We will find out by the end of the year.
     
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