2016 Mirai - new owner thread

Fueleconomy.gov is lists the Mirai as a subcompact, but the site doesn't give the extra details for FCEVs like it does for other cars. So no volume numbers for the cabin or trunk. Toyota's site isn't helpful either. What is your impression of the cabin space and trunk?
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Have you looked into getting the home power hook up?

 

Excellent choice on color! Cool LED's there in the air dam indent. Believe Toyota should stick an LED in the blue of the emblem and make that blue jump out, if that's legal.
How was the fill-up time?

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AFAIK toyota has not released passenger or cargo volume for the mirai, and magazines have not been given the car without a tender so that they could measure. I'm not sure why toyota does not want to disclose the information. Pehaps when they lease a few hundred they will disclose the numbers, or a car magazine will be left alone long enough to measure it.

 

As far as cargo volume, I'd want to see Japan numbers as the EPA cargo space seems like a meaningless number to me.

 

So your Mirai doesn't have the Chademo PTD(it's not a plug!) in the trunk. I was curious about whether the required EVSE for powering a house were available yet.

The car maker has some flexibility in what the car is classified as; wagon or SUV. Not much with a sedan though, and this simply be because Toyota didn't submit anything, or an error on the EPA site. For a car that is as big as a Camry on the outside, subcompact does seem too small for the interior. Even considering the rear armrest.

For wagons and SUVs, meaningless seems true. There are multiple standards for taking the measures, and variance with the people doing the measuring. This is likely true of the Japan numbers too.

For sedans, the measurement isn't taken from measuring the trunk, but by how many standard sized boxes can be placed inside.

From OldNSlow's measurements I'm getting 22cuft. The larger Crown Vic is listed at 21cuft on Fueleconomy.gov, and the 2016 Camry and Avalon at 15 and 16 cubic feet.

Interior length 80.3in
Interior width 57.7in
Interior height 46.6in

I just don't know how those figures compare to head, hip, shoulder, and leg room figures.

 

Autobahn-ready

 

Should have been clearer, I was interested in the price.

 

OldNSlow glad you are no longer slow ;-) Test your new car out and keep having fun with it.

If you have to ask you can't afford it Its one of those things available in Japan not the US. I'm sure it would be too expensive for anyone to take as an option in the US if toyota charged what it cost, but if they want a press release for US they will discount it to something they think will sell the 10 or 20 units for PR. My guess is their cost is around $4000/unit.

 

That sounds about what I'd espect considering it's Chademo.
Considering that the PTD was in their press release, I'm surprised that they wouldn't have it available from the start.

 

The mirai is one of the most hyped car every. They throw the kitchen sink into the press releases. Power from BS? Sure you could build it, but no one is. Coal sequestration in australia, why not. Cheaper than a tesla? Will sell better than teslas 50 years from now. There is no there there in most of the pr. You can get a feeling about what is real from the board meetings.

Power wall (or other battery back up) versus diesel generator versus mirai with v2h - we all know only in japan with government additonal subsidies would the mirai v2h work. That doesn't mean v2h won't work, but you can do it on a prius too, I think bobwilson rolled his own. A phev is even a better platform and toyota made it available in the prius phv in japan. This looks like an expensive way to go about it, but idk, maybe in 10 years they bring the cost down. I think in a power outage you are more likely to be able to drive out to fill with gas somewhere (with a back up generator for the pump) than hydrogen. Hydrogen stations being built today all need lots of grid electricity to pump.

I'm glad oldnslow is part of this test, and we should test out these fcv, but I think v2h and v2g programs are much better tested with phevs. My local utility is doing a small test with doe funds and special versions of plug-ins. The doe and car manufacturers are eating the extra cost.

 

I think the V2H EVSE available in Japan will work with any Chademo equipped plug in. Perhaps a Tesla owner with a Chademo adapter will be willing to experiment.

 

Sounds like you are putting a good amount of miles on...do you have an estimate of annual total you will do?

 

For comparison, here are some of our 2006 Prius Miles per Tank last 10 fill-ups (this winter). Soon we will start getting better range with warmer temps and summer fuels. You are doing more highway driving than we are, so we would do better range than Mirai at equivalent conditions.
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