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  1. bisco

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    they are expensive repairs compared to a regular car. unless you can find used parts and diy, or have a god mechanic, they can be several thousands of dollars. prius has a number of systems that are expensive to repair, and it's not a good idea to drive an old one, unless you're prepared to deal with any potential issues.
     
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    Thank you! This is very helpful info. I didn't realize all this. Is there a way to check these before buying? Any tips? I really appreciate you taking the time to help me learn. I'm still reading through Daisy's thread. I'm learning a lot!
     
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    unfortunately, no. they can be working one day, and bad the next. you can have a car checked out by a dealer, but they can only tell you whats working and what isn't at the moment.
    it's not a large percentage, but still something anyone with a 10 year old, high mileage vehicle should be prepared for.
     
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    Thank you! I will keep these in mind as I move forward.
     
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    I suggest you find out what is wrong with your current car first.

    If it does not cost too much to repair, I would just keep it since you know the history of your car and I assume you have taken care of it.

    Your insurance will be cheaper, you won't have any car payments and have $5k sitting in the bank earning you interest minus the cost to repair your current car.

    With a budget of $5k for another person's used car, I say forget it. Very hard to find a reliable and well taken care of car.


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    Thank you for the feedback. I was told by the rude "Aqua Doctor", that it would bet $215 just to diagnose it and over $1,000 to put new weather stripping (seals?) on and if the problem is with the roof it will be more.

    I checked with my mechanic. He said he'd be happy to give my car a look over to tell me what's wrong but he suggests getting a new car and selling my car because teenage boys would love it, etc. even if it's leaky.

    I'm not sure how well I've taken care of my car. I'm no car expert. It had another water problem probably related to the air conditioning and the mechanic said it would cost a lot to remove dash and figure out what's wrong, etc.

    I will take all this advice into consideration. Thanks again for taking the time to help me.
     
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    all the best!(y)
     
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    While I am a huge fan of the 2nd-gen Pri, I would also suggest waiting until you are able to spend more on one. For $5,000, you'll likely end up with something near the end of its design life. From what I've absorbed, the high-voltage battery isn't that much of a concern. There are other components (the transaxle, multi-function display, inverter, various ECUs, etc) that can go bad and be prohibitively expensive to take care of.

    If I were to spend $5k on a car today, I'd probably opt for something simpler, with fewer miles on the odometer, like a manual-transmission Scion xA or Mazda2.
     
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    With only $5k to spend, I'd also advise against an older and higher mileage Prius, simply because if anything breaks on it, it'll likely cost more to repair due to having two powertrains to look at, the gas and electric components.

    If your current car costs a lot more to fix than you're comfortable with, I would recommend doubling the amount you're willing to spend on another car, so that you broaden the range of cars you can afford.

    If money isn't extremely tight, considering getting a loan, save as much of that $5k as you can, then do the minimum monthly payments until you saved enough to pay off the rest of the loan after a year or so. So long as there's no early prepayment penalty, this would be a good way to also build your credit. Try to get a loan at a credit union rather than a national bank if possible, as their interest rates tend to be lower.

    If you have a garage, want to cut your gas usage even more, and your round trip work commute isn't 60+ miles, you should consider a used Chevy Volt too. You can do the first 30-50 miles on electric, depending on temps and your driving habits. It does take premium gas, but it gets about 37 mpg when running on gas. Used ones can be had for $9-15k, so a bit over your budget range unless you can increase it. But keep in mind it cost $35-40k when it was new, so it'll be a lot more comfy than an econocar will be.

    The cost is due to a variety of factors, the plug-in tax credit, the Gen 2 Volt coming out, "low" gas prices driving demand down for hybrids/plug-ins, and people just misunderstanding the car. But this works very well in your favor as a used car buyer in the form of lower prices.

    It is a compact 4 seater, so if you have a big family that takes trips regularly, it may not work out. But if you're looking for a 1 person commuter car, it's great and will save you more money overall.

    If you don't do any long distance trips, or can just rent a gas car when you do need to do one, a used Nissan Leaf might be worth looking into as well. They have no gas engine at all, so that's less maintenance, but you can also get stranded if you drive too far without charging it up or finding reliable charging stations. But if all you plan to do with it is do a say, 40 mile round trip work commute, it should handle fine.

    Just keep an eye on the number of bars it has to see if the battery suffered range degradation due to hot climate use. The Volt doesn't have this problem because its battery is liquid cooled, compared to the air-cooled design of the Leaf.

    Just other options you can look into.
     
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    The truecar site is a good place to shop. Companies like AAA & USAA license their car buying services. I haven't compared the AAA & truecar prices or the recommended dealers. They can also be used as a bargaining chip at a nonparticipating dealer.
     
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    Fine.
    But as has now been told to you by multiple posters, a used $5000 dollar Prius may not be the best solution for you.

    That price range just doesn't put you in a Prius with the best chances for reliability. And if you're budgeted down to that price range, I'm assuming you don't have a lot set aside for maintenance or repair.

    Just in general about the ONLY time I really recommend that someone might buy a Prius in the lower end of the used car pricing market, is if they are really experienced, confident or actually just want, a DIY project. If you want, or feel you can handle some potentially complicated and expensive repair work? Then the investment might be worth it. Otherwise, I'd pass.

    Because the real risk is investing $5000 into a vehicle that is going to break down and leave you with a repair you cannot afford.
    On the age of Prius that probably has you looking at? I'd want $3000-$5000 set aside for possible Hybrid Battery replacement and other issues that might arise.

    They are reliable vehicles, but like all machines they become vulnerable as they age. And again as pointed out, Prius have some expensive things that can go wrong.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback. I've taken it into consideration as I have others comments. I think I'll stick around and learn what I can while I continue to look for reliable transportation. I have as much as $10,000 but only wanted to spend half on car right now. Was going to budget for saving for a car as I move forward. I may need to get something other than a prius right now but I think asking and reading here cannot hurt. I've already learned a ton from reading the first thread link posted and I'm not even 100% done with it yet.

    That thread you linked to was great! Very informative. I appreciate you're help on this.
     
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    I would like to come up with strategies and steps to take to help me find a reliable car ASAP or get my Mits fixed. Is anyone willing to help me come up with a plan?

    On my to-do list:
    * Find a place that can accurate diagnose my car leak
    * See if I can get someone to jump my car (It's stuck in my garage with dead battery and I don't have a portable battery & I'm scared to jump it because of the water, not sure if it will do damage).
    * Bring my car to my mechanic to get a rough idea of what work needs to be put into it.

    Should I start looking for used cars at the same time or should I wait to get that list of things all done first. I was also thinking of asking my neighbors on that NextDoor app to help me. Explain my situation and see if they have any advice or see if any of them are selling a reliable used car, or see if any of them know people who go to auctions, etc.

    I see Daisy signed up for alerts or something on different sites. Which sites are the best? Is buying from a car lot better than a private person?

    I'm going to have a lot of questions and hoping to find a support of group of people who can help me figure this all out. Do you think this is a good place for that? I know I may not be able to afford a good Prius right now but ultimately I do want to get away from fuel as much as possible. I'm trying to get rid of our grass, so we don't have to use the gas rider mower. It stinks and I don't want those fumes on my future garden veggies and fruits.
     
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    I recommend finding a Gen 2 with less than 125k mi but more than 75k. On occasion one of those can be found for $6k. Preferably with Toyota service records. If the records looks good it should be ok. They are pretty reliable cars.


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    Thanks for that! The Prius I bought was just under $6,000. I've seen several listed here for less than $5,000 but may not be any good ones.
     
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    I can't help but to weigh in here. As all of you know it kills me to see someone come here interested in buying a Prius only to be told buy a Corolla or Civic. Once again, I say buy a Prius but, I do agree with the chorus of $5000 is just not enough for a good one. Of course I am only one data point but, I've owned 4 Toyota Hybrids and 3 out of 4 had over 100k miles on them. My current 05 is 11 yrs old w/ 175+k miles and still running great on the original battery.

    My recommendation is to buy a Prius but spend the extra money to get a well maintained 06 or above with around 100k miles. Corollas and Civics don't compare to the Prius in my view. I can't stand a car that doesn't shut off when I release the accelerator. That's just a waste.

    A cursory look on AutoTrader in your area turns up this one that I think is worth looking at.

    Cars for Sale: 2006 Toyota Prius in Portland, OR 97214: Hatchback Details - 417783694 - Autotrader

    It's pretty much fully loaded w/ the exception of Leather. As a general rule, people who buy a fully loaded car tend to take better care of them. There are exceptions but, this one appears to have been well cared for. There are no noticeable dents and the paint appears in great shape.

    I'd go there and offer them $7000 out the door. This is a fly by night dealer so watch the "documentation fees". That's where they make most of their money.
     
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    Thank you for your comments! I don't mind people making recommendations for other cars. I've taken note of each suggestion on other cars and will look into them. Before buying my Prius, I had already decided I wanted a Prius over a Honda Civic Hybrid. I was originally looking at both but decided the Prius was better option in my opinion.

    That car you posted is very nice. I will check it out further.

    Thanks again for being so helpful. I really appreciate it. It helps me make decisions going forward.
     
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    herb, you sound like an intelligent young man. this is a difficult road, and i applaude your diligence. all the best with your decision.(y)
     
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    I cannot drive manual. Never learned and have an injury that makes using right arm painful, etc. I'll look for those other cars as well. Thank you for your advice.
     
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    Dont buy a civic hybrid they are good below 100k but money pit as they age I know I just get rid of mine. I got rid of my 2008 it was 110k never put a dim since I own it but both batteries were cook 3k, transmission slipping 4k, air con was cook, and need another miscellaneous of 800$. dealer give me 4000$ I was lucky!
     
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