Featured Electric Cars have a long way to go to make a dent in the Oil Consumption of Cars/Trucks

What is this new rule? Got a link?

 

I'm @ work - but i'll post it later
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Yes - that's for Cali - ( Senate Bill 1275 Bill Text - SB-1275 Vehicle retirement and replacement: Charge Ahead California Initiative. ) but I though fed legislation had at least been proposed too. I might have been mistaken but but i'm still looking
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is it just the rich, or the price of the car? can a poor person get the rebate on a tesla?

 

The point is not to look at it like some growing thing. It is just the aggregate of many individual decisions. If the best car available is an EV, (for whatever criteria each person has) they will buy one. "Get a horse" was once the height of humor. How fast was that transition?

 

right. if bev's ever offer as much to gasser drivers as cars did to horse and buggy, they might have a shot.

but it won't happen as quickly.

 

The revised CA rebate program, It started on July 1 of 2015 CY, is income based. Even though it is income based, individual of $250k is a lot of money even in SF.

People that needs new car to commute and making less than $60k for a family should really try to get the Toyota Prius PiP or Chevy Volt 1 now. Major inventory discount, $4k CA rebate + Fed tax credit + (another $3k if living in the central valley) + ($3k for retiring an ICE).

 

Believe CA new incentive program doubles 2x for low incomes ($4000 total), and goes to zero for >$250k income

PS- The only incentive that I know of that is car co$t based is the new Washington State EV incentive limits rebates to cars $35k and under (Leafs for the most part).

 

Ok, so is the trick is to have a retired relative living in California be your straw-buyer?

You loan them purchase price for the vehicle with collateral being the vehicle. They get the rebate/credit and surrender the car for the balance of the loan? The rebate/credit is used for any sales overhead like taxes and registration.

Bob Wilson

 

Good old Bob - always one step ahead ...

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I was just trying to figure out how John1701a got his Plug-In Prius several years ago.

Bob Wilson

 

Shmoozing Doug & Erica ?
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A 'rebate/credit' and depreciation is a terrible thing to waste.

In the case of the Tesla and retired relative. Front them the rebate/credit and invite them to do a 'road trip' to deliver^h^h^h^h^h visit the relatives with the car. When the car arrives, close the loan and buy this 'used Tesla' with some sort of appropriate depreciation cost. After all, it is about 2,000 miles from LA to Huntsville, AL, add 600 miles if they stop in Stillwater OK and Coffeyville KS. Then with a straight face, take the title and receipt to the local vehicle registration office. . . . and fly the relative home.

Bob Wilson

 

Except the CA rebate requires that the buyer own/operate the car for 3 years. else return a prorated rebate...but I've never heard of it happening.

Mike

 

You know what this means right?

Tesla and Volt sales are going to tank.

 

I doubt Tesla's internal combustion engine needs a smog defeating device

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A $4,000 rebate/credit for a $100k car looks more like a cheap tip. More of a 'thank you, and have a mint' or is it more substantial?

Bob Wilson

 

Welfare Tesla?