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Who would buy another PIP and when?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by ppimd, Sep 23, 2015.

  1. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

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    unless gas goes up.
     
  2. bfd

    bfd Plug-In Perpetuator

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    I won't buy another one. Ever. Gutless and never really any fun to drive. There are far better options out there now. Our Tesla - admittedly a completely different vehicle - is one of them. As soon as the green sticker's expired in two years (1/1/19), I'm out. We may keep it around as a gasser, but based on a previous Prius purchase in '09, time doesn't show these cars any favor, particularly on the electronics. So when the green turns brown, I probably won't be looking back.
     
  3. usbseawolf2000

    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Gen4 looks very impressive. PiP2 may lure me to upgrade but I will hold off until a midlife refresh or I'll just wait for PiP3 or plugin Mirai2.
     
  4. giora

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    PiP is a great car for us, suits us in every aspect I can think of.
    We are 'one car family' and children flew out of nest long ago.
    Electricity price per km here is 1/4 of gasoline (for regular Prius) or 1/6-1/7 for 'conventional' car.
    Cars prices, however, are 60-100% higher than in the US. Cars' purchase tax here is linked to their cleanliness in emissions, Prius and PiP have the largest advantage.
    Our EV ratio since February 2014 is:
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    We really do not need extra EV range, however, we may be tempted to PiP 2 in about 3 years depending on it's specs especially in the areas of efficiency, safety and utility.
    Gutless? that's really not our concern, I cannot remember when I last floored the pedal.
    TEHO:cool:
     
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  5. usbseawolf2000

    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    Just curious. How is the emission in your grid mix?
     
  6. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    I will most likely hold onto my current one for quite a few years yet. Even if I purchase a BEV (Leaf, Bolt, or Tesla) in the next 3-5 years I will still likely hold onto this car for it's utility and for long road trips.
     
  7. giora

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    Our grid mix is about 46% coal 46% natural gas and 8% renewable.
    I estimate it as 650-670 g CO2e per kWh, no official number is published.