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Featured Hybrid Dashboard Summary: July 2015

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by bwilson4web, Aug 5, 2015.

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Another excellent report:
    model Jul_15 Jun_15 May_15 Apr_15
    1 Prius Liftback 11203 9559 11921 8822
    2 Ram Pickup Diesel 4775 5050 5647 5072
    3 Prius c 3517 2756 3763 3523
    4 Camry Hybrid 2756 2755 3174 2650
    5 Prius v 2620 2272 3152 2462
    6 Passat Diesel 2372 2489 2769 2182
    7 Golf Sport Wagon Diesel 2174 1506 1419 928
    8 Fusion Hybrid 2157 1691 2440 1820
    9 Jetta Diesel 1999 1852 2141 1949
    10 Sonata 1837 2334 2943 2481
    11 Model S 1800 2800 2300 1900
    12 Accord Hybrid 1481 1241 1463 1118
    13 CT200h 1374 1118 1436 1170
    14 Volt 1313 1225 1618 905
    15 C-Max Hybrid 1225 1814 1892 1237
    16 Avalon Hybrid 1175 973 1114 906
    17 Leaf 1174 2074 2104 1553
    18 i3 * 935 551 818 406
    19 Golf diesel 903 955 1 011 821
    20 ES Hybrid 891 711 911 789
    21 Optima Hybrid 873 897 1 046 892
    22 Fusion Energi 852 727 986 711
    23 MKZ 725 700 1 005 810
    24 C-Max Energi 693 667 715 553
    25 Prius Plug In 584 464 727 428
    26 Q5 Diesel 567 462 517 486
    27 XV Cross Trek Hybrid 559 493 557 552
    28 RX 400/450 h 530 486 551 492
    29 Q7 Diesel 506 360 386 355
    30 Civic Hybrid 463 391 458 386
    31 Q50 Hybrid 381 347 342 299
    32 Touareg Diesel 374 328 348 323
    33 Cruze Diesel 372 350 390 345
    34 500E 353 411 471 450
    35 Lacrosse Hybrid 322 341 498 531
    36 Grand Cherokee Diesel 317 309 364 321
    37 e-Golf 313 293 410 309
    38 Highlander Hybrid 304 311 323 305
    39 CR-Z 270 204 246 216
    40 GL-Class Diesel 265 307 383 371
    41 Cayenne Diesel 254 311 250 444
    42 Pathfinder Hybrid * 234 215 223 167
    43 NX Hybrid 234 203 250 210
    44 X5 Diesel 233 422 1 299 417
    45 3-Series diesel 232 316 670 217
    46 QX60 Hybrid * 226 180 188 170
    47 i8 217 137 117 138
    48 B-Class Electric 196 242 278 158
    49 A3 Diesel 165 274 313 438
    50 GLK Class Diesel 143 131 111 1117
    51 A6 Diesel 137 155 134 130
    52 Focus EV 135 152 165 124
    53 Insight 113 126 139 183
    54 fortwo EV 109 94 102 124
    55 E-Class diesel 103 91 80 60
    56 Beetle Diesel 101 78 96 114
    57 X3 diesel 96 103 123 426
    58 Jetta Hybrid 91 66 55 41
    59 5-Series diesel 89 82 74 65
    60 Cayenne S E-Hybrid 77 89 111 88
    61 Civic 66 124 44 34
    62 ELR 66 62 116 104
    63 A7 Diesel 65 78 64 60
    64 Soul EV 59 109 108 73
    65 Spark 57 226 283 920
    66 A8 diesel 34 45 28 24
    67 RLX hybrid 28 27 24 15
    68 Panamera S E-Hybrid 23 34 21 30
    69 Impala Hybrid 23 24 53 49
    70 Promaster Van Diesel 15 22 25 18
    71 i 12 23 18 16
    72 Q70 Hybrid 11 12 14 15
    73 GS 450h 11 7 8 12
    74 S550 Plug In 10
    75 Regal Hybrid 8 17 23 28
    76 Regal Hybrid 8 17 23
    77 Q5 Hybrid 8 5 17 7
    78 ML Class Diesel 7 5
    79 ActiveHybrid 5 (535ih) 5 2 2 1
    80 LS 600h 5 1 7 5
    81 Yukon Hybrid 2 2 3 3
    82 E400H 2 0 2 0
    83 Malibu Hybrid 1 27 2 4
    84 ActiveHybrid 3 (335ih) 1 5 5 2
    85 ML450H 1 5
    86 Accord Plug In 1 4 5 5
    87 Touareg Hybrid 1 2 6 0

    Source: Jeff Cobb's Hybrid Market Dashboard - HybridCars.comHybridCars.com (Well worth reading!)
    Charts will follow:
      • One new hybrid
      • Six retired (bye-bye RAV4-EV)
      • "Prius c" - dip in June, Wth?
      • Way to go Golf TDI Wagon
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    Bob Wilson
     
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  2. bisco

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    prius rules! okay, ram pick up diesel, but they're beyond the pale.
     
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    • Toyota rules hybrid space, and how.
    • Leaf taking a dip some say due to the new-model-coming-out-soon-blues, but also expiration of GA/WA incentives in July, WA ended up extending their incentives for Leaf for another 12 months.
    • Week or so I can tell you %CA for hybrid/plug-ins first half 2015
     
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    Yikes wti is under $46/bbl, hybrid take rate is only 2.27% ytd down from 2.9% last year, my confidence that a good gen IV prius can greatly improve this market is still there but weakening.

    For plug-ins the next year is pretty bright after a flat year (down a suprising 5.6% ytd vs 2014, but look to make that up in the last quarter).
    Tesla model X will get released, Tesla supplier problems have been solved, and changeover should be less painful than last year.
    Gen II volt released in september or october
    2016 leaf update should keep it in the game
    better availability of bmw i

    The outlander phev is also due next year which should help next years sales.
     
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    Compare Side-by-Side
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    On the ram its more torque but only 3 mpg than the V6 powered ram, while a prius is 15 mpg better than a corrolla eco.

    But .... fuel savings are similar. EPA says you will save $1250 on fuel in the diesel or $1750 on the prius versus a similar model over 5 years.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    If Mitsubishi lasts that long.:rolleyes:
    They are closing their last North American plant.
     
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    Its an import. Availability reaffirmed at the end of June. Poor sales of mitsubishi products may hurt the outlander phev as well as the rav4 hybrid and model X, but all these will build the hybrid/plug-in market by bringing more choice. The big 2 for plug-in sales growth are the model X and gen II volt.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    But they have had to push back the introduction before though. I think they'll get it to market here, but if it gets delayed, or doesn't sell very well, Mitsubishi might end up pulling out of the US market.
     
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    Next week I'll give you CA hybrid take rate and I bet it is very high.
    Then we can back-calc Rest-of-USA hybrid take rate, and I bet it is not-so-good

    Plug_ins dodged a bullet with CA green HOV sticker extension and WA EV incentive extension for EV's under $35k, and WA have added PHEV's under $35K (excluding PiP) to their incentives. GA EV incentives lost however.
     
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    While California is an important state, I think the key one is the US rate for hybrids.

    California might show though a higher oil tax would help hybrid sales, you know we just kicked the highway bill down the road again because no one will agree to how to pay for it.
     
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    Toyota rules the hybrid space!!!, happy to say I was able to acquire a Prius before move on to another country, but the Prius came with me, here the combustible is very expensive, and the Hybrid vehicles are like bigfoot, too much people talk about it, but no one saw one before, and feel surprising to see my car every place we go.
     
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    OK the California numbers are in for the first half!

    1st Half 2012:
    Hybrids holding 29.5% sold in CA
    Plug-In Hybrids holding 62.6% sold in CA
    BEV's dropped to 50% sold in CA (was higher 1st Quarter)

    I am thinking there might have been extra Leaf sales in Georgia and Washington ahead of incentives expirations on June 30 (WA later re-instated the Leaf inceintives).

    Hybrids+Plug-ins is 3% of USA market, Hybrids alone about 2.3% of USA market, and but falling. Hopefully the 2016 Prius saves the day.

    Data: CNCDA
     
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    Toyota Reports August Sales of 224,381 Units

    "August 2015 Highlights:
    • Corolla posted sales of 31,726 units
    • Camry August sales were 37,592 units
    • Total TMS light trucks posted sales of 93,575 units
    • Highlander up more than 16 percent
    • 4Runner up over 15 percent
    • RAV4 posted sales of 30,534 units
    • Sequoia posted sales of 1,048 units
    • Combined Tacoma and Tundra pickup sales up 0.4 percent
    • Lexus luxury utility vehicles up 15.2 percent
    • All-new NX posted sales of 4,448 units
    • All-new RC posted sales of 1,337 units
    • GX posted sales of 2,221 units"
    Note: Last year's Labor Day Weekend was part of August selling Days!
     

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    So without too much study, Toyota brand "cars" down for 2015, which is contrary to market which looks like record year for car sales. Partial explanation for being down is Prius, hybrid sales slump. Gotta think this is fundamental shift away from hybrids due to lower gaso cost and higher cost for hybrids. Also California focus on plug-ins hurts hybrids.

    Maybe EPA will save Prius with forced CO2 reductions at some later date.
     
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    EPA already has the rules through 2025 on CO2 reductions they are encapsulated in CAFE standard. There is a political risk of government rolling these changes back if not enough efficient cars are being sold and gas prices remain low.

    Lexus trucks aka SUVs (NX, RX, GX, LX)increased in DSR by 19.7%, the new NX helped with this increase. The LX humongous class was down which IMHO is a good thing, and the RX didn't get cannibalized that badly by the smaller NX. Pick up truck's increased DSR 4.3%. Those are the most profitable things toyota makes. Toyota SUVs only dropped 3.7% in DSR. Volume was not as good, but if DSR exceeds SVR then ASP goes up, and likely profit margins. Toyota and Lexus Cars dropped in DSR by 10.6%. The Lexus LS and GS dropped by around 27% each, maybe part of the tesla effect. Not surprising the prius family dropped 21.3%. With gas prices low, and a new prius coming soon, IMHO 21.3% is not bad.
     
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