Running E85

All you need is something to reshape the injector pulse, if you want to run either E85 or E10. If you run E85 exclusively, then run bigger injectors.

 

I'm not sure im comfortable with just adding to the injector pulse. With that you'll still have trim tables need to adjust a lot, not sure how many cc the stock injectors push but id size it appropriately. Also opening up the intake and peoples reactions to it seems there some for growth. More air / higher octane ..... I feel there's room for growth =)

E85 is also cheaper and lower emissions (creation process not withstanding which I believe can improve).

Samsung Epic ?.

 

good info here

 

that's good stuff, how do we take advantage of it?

 

it's not just about the savings, it's also to get away from the oil cartel. the full movie is up for streaming on netflix. "PUMP the movie".

 

I know that some people just LOVE to take chances and live "outside the box" but others reading this should realize that Toyota.....and every other car maker on the face of the earth......says to NOT do that in a car not designed for it.

E85 will corrode many different things: hoses, gaskets and even some metals......IF the car was not designed for that.

Mike might get along just fine doing this.......but he might not too. Only time will tell and there IS some risk involved.
Unless of course your car is marked "Flex Fuel".

 

Well, they showed the only hose in the entire fuel system that is constantly submerged in fuel both inside and out,( the pump to tank outlet hose) and it and the pump looked much better than the ones run in so called pure gas. Looks like you have a hard time accepting the truth.

 

And it looks to me like YOU have a hard time ascertaining what constitutes good evidence.
Simply looking at a part tells you NOTHING about it's health.......usually.

 

I'll give the OP credit for one thing.....3 years w/o trouble speaks for itself.

Would I buy his car used?
Probably not - but then again I won't buy any used car SPECIFICALLY because there are too many chemical and physics 'hobbyists' out there who take shortcuts.

I'm not one of these anti-ethanol activists.
The way I see it is that since most corn is used for fattening cows, fattening kids, fattening pets, or in the adult beverage industry then putting it into a Prius is probably one of the better uses for the stuff.
I'm just not sold on E85 working in cars for 10 years, and that's how long I need a Prius to last.

Toyota is THE buzz-kill car company.
That's why they're trying to revamp their stodgy image by making cars look like they were designed by stoner college droupouts, BUT there is a reason that all of the big car companies differentiate flex-fuel cars from non-flex-fuel cars, and it isn't just the yellow gas cap!


............something to think about when you're on the used car lot looking at a 2012 Prius with "a clean CARFAX history."

 

The hose had the appearance and softness of a new hose as the tec said, while the Pump run on E85 had less than half the wear of one run the same mileage on so called pure gas. What better proof could their be ?

 

1. Manufacturers recommendation.....or....
2. Hundreds of 300,000 mile Priuses that always used E85......or......
3. Something a little more quantifiable than "less than half the wear" or "has the appearance." The OP represents ONE data point.....kinda like how climate debaters are always pointing to ONE hurricane as proof of climate change or ONE cold Winter as proof to the contrary.

I respect that OP's willingness to put his car through the test.....but I'm not inclined to do it myself.......yet.

All of this isn't new.....

 

FWIW I think that the world is moving towards E85 capable vehicles. Most OEMs use plastic and alloys where they didn't do so before...I just need assurances for some fairly important pieces/parts like valves and injectors.
There's a biiiiiiig difference between E85 and E10, but it's doable....as we see in places like Brazil where they often as not use E100.
I remember some biker telling me that using E10 was going to destroy my Harley's gas tank.
I reached down and thunked my V-Rod's PLASTIC fuel tank and said....
"I don't think so....."

I need a 300,000 mile capable car.
That's normal use times 10-15 years.
If the OEM says DO NOT USE E85, then I'm inclined to think that there is a reason that they do not want me to do so on a vehicle that THEY have to cover for 100,000 worth of power train failures. Lesser coverages if you drive a car with a lesser warranty
Call me nieve, but....
I'm thinking that if the OEMs could put yellow gas caps and FLEX-FUEL badges on their cars and provide this additional capability for less than $5 worth of additional hardware then they would do so.

I'm just not buying the George Noory conspiracy theories on this one.

YMMV!

 

thanks for telling how long you used e85,will e85 clean the carb body .intake manifold and egr valve from accumulated carbon,if so i will start using e85 as a preventive measure being as i am no longer afraid to use e85