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I am going solar

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  1. hill

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    225's ... 36 of 'em. Deduct for DC to AC conversion, plus non-ideal roof orientation & the like, and after all subtractions, the system's output is thus oficially rated at 7.1kW's ... mind you, that amount only hits for short periods during longer summer days ... but I guess the 'theoretical high' output for a few moments is considered a system's rating.
     
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    I got the PSEG solar loan approved for about $12k (after fees). It will be repaid with 10 years of SREC generated from the panels. The electricity will be mine.

    I may keep the last 5 years of SREC so I can claim my PiP EV miles run on solar power and solar emission.

    The next step is to get the town permit.
     
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    Just waiting for the Interconnection preapproval.
     
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    Just in time for summer solar hours!
     
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    I hope to get it done by April 22nd (Earth Day).
     
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    How does NJ handle property tax for 'improvements' ... favorably? Some states/counties base property taxes on values of improvements. So far, Calif isn't jacking up property taxes - but who knows - maybe in the future ...
     
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    The added value of the PV system to my home will not increase my property tax. The value is excluded from it so it is good.

    I do have to insure it due to PSEG loan. I called Liberty Mutual to see how much extra it would be. Basically, I don't have to pay extra. There is a reserve (forgot what it was called) in my policy to cover 20% addition of my home value.
     
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    Probably against the public policy encouraging renewable energy.
     
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    Increases in real estate property taxes in California are limited to 2%/yr by Proposition 13. But on sale, the property is reassessed at market value. Even suggesting changing this is a kiss of death for California politicians.
     
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    Actually, any capital improvement (remodeling, etc.) also triggers the assessed value to go up by the cost of those improvements. It does not trigger a complete reassessment, just tacks on the improvements' value to the existing value.
     
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    Sweet!
     
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    Tomorrow will be Earth Day! The guys are coming over to reinforce the roof to handle the weight of the panels.

    The actual install will be early next week after all the hardware are delivered. I hope I can turn it on by the end next week!
     
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    Hey. Do you have an l2 charger or l1
     
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    Just L1. L2 is very temping but L1 is fine for what I need.

    I can't wait to test the system and charge my PiP off the PV panels. :)
     
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    It's very nice. Gas would have to be less than like 50 cents to match what you're saving with solar. Of course here's the dillema - you don't charge you save energy toward the house. But then on average, if you do charge you save versus using regular gas
     
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    Yes - one can get pretty philosophical on using PV. I had a fellow say we're stupid for having a system so large that it puts thousands of surplus kWh's on the grid. His rationale is that a system is 'best' - when it's so small, all it does is knock off top tier rates, which in our case, were 5X higher than baseline rates. That rational says your system's payback comes 5X quicker. But our plan is for a 2ND plugin eventually - which will ALSO cost zero for fuel. In the mean time, the utility pays us a pittance for our surplus.
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    After our solar installation I wish we had a larger system (though not possible at the time considering we picked the most efficient system on the least amount of roof). I'm even thinking down the road we completely offset our usage and we get our credits for electricity. That would be swell.

    Yes surplus could go to the grid, but that's peer-to-peer solar generation right there, or even energy generation. No longer do we truly have to rely on one source or one area. Everyone can contribute and that's a good thing.
     
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    Solar energy is going to cover both my home and the PiP usage. I will even have a bit more extra to cover the panel degradation down the road (25 years).

    Yeah, the dilemma is going to be what to do with the extra. I could use it to heat the house during non-winter seasons. But then, I'll be trying to save $1 in natural gas with $1.79 worth of electricity.

    I could try to charge PiP more often to get higher EV ratio. I usually get home around 3:30pm and start charging. So, my EV miles will be solar powered and zero emission. None of the grid electricity emission will go into my PiP. If I try to charge more often, I may have to do it when the sun is down and grid emission will come into play. Something to think about. I will not go crazy with it though.
     
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    You will get the PIP 4th Gen which will require more KWh stored. You will also get the plugin Prius V 7 seater :p there - now all is covered efficiently.
     
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    This must be an exciting time for you!
    You have one foot firmly planted in the clean energy future!
    I salute you!

    You know you will soon want a car with much better EV performance.
    Don't worry about the silly grid-tied solar question. Any solar panel is GHG reducing. Charge your car whenever. Think of the grid as a battery.

    There are used iMiEV's, Leaf's and even some Spark EV's (400 ft/lb torque!) out there.
    If you need one car that can do it all there are really cheap used Volts also.