Apple + Toyota Partnership for Systems Integration

me too, but toyota probably doesn't want to pay apple prices.

 

Neither do I.

JeffD

 

Toyota is an Apple CarPlay partner. New models will come with it.
I would very much like them to offer a system update for older models. This shouldn't be very much trouble at all... it would just be a software update.
I would happily pay for it!
(see Apple's website... backslash ios backslash carplay)

 

Yes, I am also waiting for carplay.

 

Eventually

Hopefully

 

My take on the delay; Risk aversion.

Apple is not a risk averse company, at least not Job's Apple. They placed innovation, and "the experience" ahead of things like worrying if the iPhone would cannibalize their iPod sales, or concerning themselves with how their competitors were (or were not) currently doing things.

Toyota, on the other hand, is a very risk averse company. The original Prius being a remarkable exception, Toyota has valued quality and precision over efficiency (in the production cycle) over most other things. Part of this is due to the American car market. The "big three" tried several "new things" over the decades, with poor quality, and soiled consumer confidence in "new technology" in their cars.

I (like you) think that Toyota and Apple are very closely aligned in several respects (e.g. quality, efficiency, and consumer satisfaction). However, knowing Apple's preference to control their eco-system, and auto manufactures preference to do the same, I do wonder how well CarPlay will go over.

Toyota has to be making a killing off those over priced map updates for their navigation system

 

This is one of the reasons I went with the Two, instead of the Three, as the navigation package wasn't worth it for me. Having maps on my phone, that are constantly updated for free seemed better than payingn an extra $1,500 to step up to the Three and have built in maps... Though, the smart key on the rear hatch would have been nice...

 

Not to get too far OT, I have a liftback (not a "v"), so I'm not sure if the Three package is similar between the two vehicles.

 

Amen, brother. A POS

 

Nothing against Apple, but I think they'd be foolish to tie their system to what is globally a small player in the smartphone OS market. You'd think they want to partner with Android, given it's huge lead in market penetration. Best would be to integrate both so the customer could choose. I could see where only having one or the other would drive customers away that had the other platform.

 

i'd go with samsung, but they probably won't play nice with the korean's.

 

There are many reasons Apple will never partner with Android, but one of them is that Android has about a dozen different OSs in addition to the myriad of others adapted for budget phones/tablets. In other words Android is not consistent and as a result tends to be both buggy and prone to viruses, etc. Apple may not be as common, but it certainly is more stable and you are assured of having a decent amount of downward compatibility if necessary. I'm prejudiced toward Apple, but I would use a Microsoft product before Android.

 

I meant Toyota adopt Android. Of course Apple will never partner with Android.

You are right about Android being a little harder to code to. It's more like Windows that way, with different versions and releases. And I understand Apple is easier to program to since they force updates on the users. I'm a programmer and have written apps for both. You get by a lot of that by just writing apps for the latest few releases of Android.

But as a manufacturer, I'd pick the dominate platform with the growing market share to adopt first. Over 84% of the smartphones sold globally for 3Q14 had the Android OS. Only about 12% had iOS. And that just continues to get more lopsided. I'd be a pretty poor business decision to tie your wagon solely to Apple in that market, IMO.
IDC: Smartphone OS Market Share 2014, 2013, 2012, and 2011

 

The nice thing is you don't have to be tied to anything, just make it carplay compatible. It will work with other systems as well. Apple is a huge player in the smartphone market, the high end market. Android has a ton of share in the ground floor and up. But you can have Carplay and Android compatible, you don't have to have a car system using one device. And it's IOS versus Android, the market includes phones and all IOS devices.

I love how Apple rolled this one out, not making things exclusive.

IDC, ummm yeah. Repeat, Carplay can be in a car in Addition to the other systems. One of the few things Blackberry did right. Ford is following this path now, after finally ditching the incredibly bad Microsoft system.

 

I'm going to buy the CarPlay compatible Alpine this spring for my wife's Honda Fit.
So I at least do not really care what OEM choices are made.