Is this part covered under the "Hybrid System" part of the warranty?

The Computer, Power Management is the the same as the Hybrid ECU.

The EOE safety recall was a software upgrade to reduce stress on the Inverter Power Module. This is not similar to your problem.

Your Warranty Manual is very specific about what is covered by the different warranties including hybrid components. Read your manual and see what it says.

 

I'm almost certain Toyota Corporate would cover this repair.......if it's not already covered. Your car is very new and the miles are very low.

 

It's gonna be really tough for your dealer to look at you with a straight face and tell you that something called a "Hybrid Engine Control Unit" is not part of your car's "Hybrid System."

 

Clearly this is a CARB covered warranty item. They cannot charge you for the diagnosis of the failure of a covered item.

 

From the warranty manual for my 2010 in a non-CARB state:

Hybrid System Warranty

This warranty covers repairs needed to
correct defects in materials or
workmanship of the components listed
here and supplied by Toyota, subject to
the exceptions indicated under “What Is
Not Covered” on pages 14-15.

• Battery control module (battery voltage sensor)

• Hybrid battery

• Hybrid control module (power management control module)

• Inverter with converter

Coverage is for 96 months or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

 

So basically you paid about $500 for the repair. The 12v battery replacement is not covered under warranty and should run you around $300 installed.....but I seriously doubt your 12v needed replacement in such a short time frame. oh well, 75% off is better than paying full price.

 

How about contacting the CARB people and asking for clarification? If, as I suspect it is, the part is covered, I'm sure they will assist you in bringing the dealer and Toyota up to speed. Further, Toyota should pay for your 12v by way of apology. Good luck, and please keep us posted.

 

you could've kept the old battery for the price of the core charge $15 or less

 

I believe the power mana is a body control computer (12 volt management) as opposed to the drivetrain control computer (hybrid control ECU).
The power mana computer would be covered by the 3 year 36,000 mile warranty and should have lasted the life of the vehicle 200k+.
Its nice to see Toyota helped out with the out of warranty repair but I feel the dealer overcharged you starting with the unlikely 12v battery need for replacement.

 

Can you give us some facts (part numbers, Repair Manual descriptions, etc.) to verify your claim that the power mana is a body control computer?

 

"I believe", but I wont say that I am positive about my prior post based on:

89681-47041 is power mana per delrays original post
89661-47450 is drivetrain ECU as listed at www.car-parts.com

The main reason I suspect the power mana computer is a body computer is because delray stated in a later post on this thread: " I should start a new thread, but I admit to being surprised that Toyota Connect didn't work when my car broke down. I guess that it is supposed to work even in a car crash (or especially then) so with enough power for headlights, hazard lights, and door locks to work I was sad that I couldn't make the safety connect call" suggest body control problems and not drivetrain.

 

delray, i agree with you completely. not that it helps, but they should have put your old battery back in and not charged you at all. toyota should have covered the rest of the expenses, period.

 

When I search the 2010 Prius Repair Manual for "power mana" the only reference found is the Power Management ECU which is also referred to as the Hybrid System ECU or the HV CPU. I can find no reference for a power mana ECU. Of course this is something that may have been added to later models or even the PiP.

My opinion is that the Toyota reference to "computer, power mana" is just a truncated reference to the "computer, power management". If someone can prove otherwise, please let us know.

Unless someone can prove otherwise, it appears to me that the dealer may be using this truncated reference as a way to avoid a warranty replacement.

 

Per Toyota, the covered items are model specific and year specfic, so one needs the Toyota list for 2012 (which I have)

HV control computer (power management control computer)*

If that's the part, sounds like a sub-par service center, normally on a warranty item they are only so happy to fix it and charge Toyota.

 

warranty labor charge is not the same as non warranty labor charge. The rates are completely different.

It's the same as having a home warranty. When the contractors come out, whatever they put on their report is how the claim will be paid. The tech has total control on how much is charged on your claim. Toyota in this case, is there to cover any warranty repair. But if the tech lists items that are not warranty items, Toyota has no obligation to pay.

 

Which is why I suggested contacting CARB's enforcement dept. They would be the ones to take the dealer's technician by the ear and lead him to the warranty covering the hybrid system. And Toyota ought to be looking over the shoulders of these guys to keep them honest, instead of covering their butts by paying only what the technician tells them they have to pay? What, are these guys operating out of Washington, D.C?