ICE not running -- Car stuck on forest road

Have you checked out priusdiy.com for instructions and pictures of the MAF procedure? It has some helpful tutorials with pictures for that and other simple maintenance items.

 

I'm going to need some more Popcorn.........

 

Oh...we won't reach the final chapter of this story until you return safely from Iowa...which is the ending that I'm hoping for......

 

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Thank you so much.

 

Before you declare victory and say your car is ready for your long road trip, you really need to log a few hundred miles via local driving trips. We know the dealer tech could not find a problem after an hour of checking around. So there is no obvious problem. However intermittent issues are not obvious.

"Phantom no-start" - I disagree that this is a common happening - I have 182K miles on the 2004 and 73K miles on the 2007 and have not ever had a P3191 engine no start code. When that code is logged there is usually a good reason for it.

Classic Prius, which is just one or two steps above a science experiment, has been known to have issues like this. But that model is not as fully developed as 2G.

A good idea to keep the Mini VCI around. That, your fully-charged laptop and cell phone should be your traveling companions for a while.

 

I've heard that oil overfill can cause no start condition. Was that looked into?

 

Kris said the oil was at the "3.5 quart mark", though to be honest I'm not entirely sure what that means. My dipstick doesn't have quart markings on it, but I assume that it's somewhere between the low and full marks.

 

I totally agree Patrick. Failed HV batteries are "rare", but yet we have literally dozens of them reported here (on the forums) these days. Failed transmissions are even rarer, but we see enough of those reported too. But "phantom" cases of engines failing to start, without any actual cause. Hmm, can't remember reading even one single case of that happening with the Gen2.

It's pretty simple really. The dealer service dept can either take your money and say "yeah we're totally clueless too", or take your money and tell you "everything fine, no real problem it was just a phantom" to make you feel better. The latter sounds better.

 

I checked our 2006 G2 for signs of leakage at the water pump and sure enough it has a couple areas with pink powder built up. Checked too see how much had leaked out, but it was still full. 70,000 kilometers on car. I don't feel I will change the pump at this time. Is this a typical issue with Toyota pumps? H

 

Yeah quite a lot of people have reported seeing that build up. It appears to be that if there's even a really gradual seepage then you can get some amount of pink crusting there. My opinion is that if it's seeping so slowly that you can't even notice any loss in the radiator or reservoir then it's probably not anything even remotely urgent.

 

Wow this thread is still going strong. Where's the popcorn?

 

You need to go see ETC(SS)!
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I use real butter.

 

Kris I noticed you posted about finding mice debris along the top of the engine on 9-14 in the General section of the forum.
Few days later here the car dies so makes me think def mice damage. Check entire intake again including snorkle main air in tube.

Not sure what all the hubub about the maf is all about. Even if you completely disconnect the maf and start the car it will run just will stumble when you give it gas. It will throw a check engine light but not all the lights your seeing. I know as I left the maf disconnected once after a tb clean. No big deal plug it back in and 3 starts later the cel goes out. The maf rarely causes issues. I have never had to replace one in my life.

I'm with Pat your car threw a Master Warning in addition to other cel's. This car does not do that lightly. I believe you still have not found the problem so don't start off on your big adventure just yet.

 

The distance between the top and bottom dimple amounts to ~1.6 US quarts. If your oil level is halfway between those two marks, then the engine roughly has ~3 US quarts of oil, assuming that the top dimple amounts to 3.9 US quarts. This is rough because the crankcase doesn't have a symmetrical shape. Therefore a 1/8" drop near the bottom dimple may require less fluid to disappear compared to a 1/8" drop at the top dimple.

This is OK as long as you check the level in the radiator itself, not just the overflow tank. Sometimes the leak will allow air back into the system, which results in the overflow tank not doing its job and remaining full while the radiator level drops.

 

I took the black cover off and checked at the rad. . H