Got a Tesla - in Toyota clothing

The battery temp remains in the 'Happy' zone, (that's the tech spec ) whether plugged in or being driven.
When unplugged and left out in the Tucson sun for days all cars and all their parts are at the same temp. Way Too Hot.
When plugged in EV's and PHEV's with an advanced TMS will keep their pack in the Happy Zone. Tucson in summer or The UP of MI in winter.

 

So you have no idea what the "Happy Zone" is in terms of actual temps? Real numbers is simply all I'm looking for.

 

Bill Norton, your viewpoint is biased and that is why you annoy PiP owners.
If you restricted yourself to known data, you could reasonably say that

1. Air cooled packs have decreased average longevity compared to water cooled packs in Tuscon like environments. End

There is no data to prove or even suggest that a water cooled pack will last longer in a more moderate heat environment. This is why Markabele is asking for 'happy' battery temperatures. If it is known, then he can say whether *his* environment/driving is straining the battery outside of desired spec. If you wish to contribute constructively to this thread rather than just being a Volt fanboi in the wrong forum, add some useful information.

As for heating, John1701 does just fine in MN. That should tell you to be more circumspect in your assumptions.

 

How did this thread get so far off topic? "Can't we all just get along?" I enjoyed the posts about the guys and their RAV4 EVs, can we please go back to that discussion? I mean, seven pages in, and it looks like neither side is going to convince the other, so let's call it a draw.

 

I was impressed they needed only one heat exchanger for the size of the battery. I thought they had said 3 once but the other 2 are for cabin and drive areas.

 

That could mean

1. The heat exchanger is a big one
2. The heat exchanger is efficient
3. The battery does not discharge a lot of heat
4. The heat exchanger is only one avenue for heat removal
5. The battery is allowed to reach high temperatures