Prius c has worse mpg than Gen III on Fuelly

A matter of perspective, to be sure. How about the following:

1. Prior president GB refused to sign the Kyoto accord out of fear of damaging the US economy. The stated goal was a 10% decrease in carbon emissions.
2. Toyota has delayed the next Prius, and will spend 5+ years and a *lot* of money to improve the Prius about 10%
3. Over the lifetime of a Prius -- say 200 - 300k miles, a 12% reduction of fuel consumption saves a consumer between 24 - 36 thousand miles in fuel costs and pollution. Even if one takes the stance that the inflation adjusted fuel cost will stay the same as today for the next decade, that is approaching $2000 savings in fuel per car.
4. If Toyota can keep the next gen Prius the same price as now in inflation adjusted dollars, they will have cut the hybrid premium in *half*

 

Glass half empty guy, I see.

 

I emailed Fuelly about this over a week ago and have heard nothing.

 

I mentioned the low speeds benefits of weight but also that there is a benefit in high speeds when you take into account the variables like inclines even subtle ones or decelerating and accelerating on the freeway.

Im willing to bet that a trip from LA to Las Vegas with cruise set a 75mph the C would use less fuel.

 

I would happily take that wager.

Perhaps you would be willing to post that wager at cleanMPG ? I'd like to hear opinions from some of those folks, and particularly from Wayne.

 

I'd take that wager as well. Would have to be in controlled circumstances. Same driver, same conditions.

 

Same cruise control

 

Ok great any volunteers with both cars please step forward.

 

I would love to have a cruise control that could be set at "75 mpg"

Per Transport Canada:

Prius c city/highway mileage: 3.6/4.0 (liters/100 km)
Prius city/highway mileage: 3.7/4.0

That's kinda weird..., don't the US ratings give better highway mpg to the (regular) Prius.

 

Hehe What the lowest it can be set at? I think the C can do 75mpg @ 45mph.

 

I made the drive recently, I think I hit 47-48mpg. It's a grueling drive for a C, you're going up a lot in elevation.

 

I could go into the numerous reasons I bought a regular Prius II instead of a Prius c.

But the primary one, was that I was coming from a Honda Fit, and I wanted something that just felt and looked significantly different. And The Prius c, just reminded me too much of what I had just owned. I like change...when I change.

And there are other reasons I like the regular Prius...but to not inflame a Prius Standard vs. Prius c war or debate, I won't bother bringing them up.

That being said, having now owned my Prius for over a year, I'll admit there are times I miss having a sub-compact. Mostly when it comes to parking. With a sub-compact...you don't even have to think about it, you can park almost anywhere. And with my Fit? Being so small I had little worries that I would get door dinged as even in a crowded spot, my Fit allowed plenty of room from side to side.

So anyway, I like the Prius c as a product. Had Toyota been able to offer it with a greater difference or improvement in MPG's over the standard? I might be driving one today, because I might be strange, but I actually LIKE sub-compacts.

But since the MPG's difference between Standard Prius and Prius c was so equal or close, and for some other reasons...I went with the standard Prius.

I don't regret it. It's the best long road trip vehicle I have ever owned.

 

Are the test speeds different ?

 

True for me and my wife as well. I imagine this tends to hold true for people who come from countries where small is normal.

Actually, my wife mentioned today that her friend's husband has just changed his tune, going from "We need and want a mini-Van" to "small cars are great!" Five weeks in Ireland did it. He did mention he frequented the pub a lot.

 

I was saying that the Prius Gen III graph I remember seeing showed it about getting better mpg vs the Prius C >70 mph. I also do not believe this graph above 70 mph for the Prius C. I get about 50-52 mpg at 70 mph. Even at 75 mph I usually get near 50 mpg. Its at 80 thats the issue.

 

here is the prius Gen III Chart. Updated MPG vs MPH chart | PriusChat

Says 40 mpg at 80, maybe the Prius C is better then? At 70 the Prius Gen III gets about 53 and at 75 about 48. I cant say that is much is any better than im doing in the Prius C. And the Prius C blows it away in the city or at speeds <60

 

I just drove a tank in Florida on I-10 and I-95 with the cruise at 72. 44 MPGs. Don't know if Florida gas is different than Georgia gas, but I didn't like it.

 

The EPA mpg rating is determined on a computer controlled speed and distance trial and does not represent real life mpg; its for comparison omnly.
In fact the C and liftback enginsare likely responsible. A small engine has to work harder than a large engine so fuel consumption is greater slightly.
On nice long level stretches the C probably wins unless aero is worse.

 

I am doing my best to increase the mileage on fuelly. I just posted my best tank yet at 58.6 MPG. My commute is 100 miles round trip, mostly freeway, with hills and sometimes very windy conditions. I credit that number to hobbits explanation of (Warp Stealth). When I found out how to do this my mileage jumped by at least 4 MPG. It is really amazing what the C is capable of if you drive it right.

http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/warpstealth.html