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Best way to drive PIP?

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by Au-Toe, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. nman84

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    Thanks for the
    Thanks for the explanation. So my last two days driving to work, when I entered the highway and switched to HV, I noticed I was still losing about 1 mile of EV range (very rapidly) before the HV system became primary. Is this the penalty???
     
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    Yes, that's the warm up penalty in action...
    But in the case where you keep driving for several miles after entering HV mode and the engine has warmed up completely- the PIP will try to get back most of the EV lost during ICE warm up. Of course if you're on a short trip where you turn the PIP off right after ICE warm up -you'll lose the EV burn off miles.
     
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    Ahhh yes, I noticed this as well! My commute is long enough to get most of those miles back on EV. Thank you for the response and explanations.
     
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    You're welcome!
    Don't know where you're located- but if you're in a four season location... you can expect seriously better mpg during the spring and summer months, even longer EV range too.
    For December I got 81mpg for the month, in comparison- I got 113mpg for last August!
     
  5. usbseawolf2000

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    Actually, EV-Boosted warm up can get at least 50 mpg at 45 mph. Sure, it'll consume 1 EV mile but the MPG will remain high. In that case, the penalty is hit with EV mile.

    If you let the gas engine return that borrowed EV mile, MPG under "HV mile" will take a hit.

    Whenever the engine is cold and you need to bring it up to the operating temp (130 deg F), you'll use gasoline amount of two jumbo eggs. During the warm up stage, ICE will generate 3-6 hp. It can propel the car or charge the battery. It is not like you are wasting the gas. You get heat, plus propulsion power.

    Over time, as you use ICE more, there will be excessive heat. The car won't let the temp hit more than 198 deg F or else waste it through the radiator. This is the window of opportunity use your EV miles (if any extra). Let the coolant drop down to 130 deg F and repeat the cycle.

    Heat management by switching between EV and HV mode is fun. You don't have to do it and leave it in EV mode and PiP does it automatically. However, I like to believe I can do a better job than HSD. :)
     
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    this is what i wonder sometimes. would it just be better, albeit, lazier to just leave it in EV mode, and let the computer switch it over when it needs to because i'm either driving to fast or too hard on the accelerator?
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    HSD does a good job, I was impressed when I tried it. It operates the ICE in the temp between 90 degF? and 130 degF. I think the low end depends on the cabin temp you set.
     
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    lol, if kate upton was my wife... i wouldn't be posting up her picture on here. i'm a pretty private with my family stuff.
    i am married though.

    Yea, I kinda figured that! Amazing tho what an air brush can do and most likely implants!
     
  11. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Here is a great video and thread about Pulse and Glide (and other things). It is for the 2010 regular Prius. But in HV mode the PiP acts just like a regular Prius.

    The Pulse and Glide is one of the most important ideas for someone trying to save gas in HV to know. Check it out:
    Max MPG Driving Techniques Youtube Video | PriusChat
     
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    Ahh.. I wish I had a PiP... When will it ever be available over here... I EnVy you guys! :rolleyes:
     
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    usbseawolf2000 HSD PhD

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    With PiP, you can accelerate to 62 mph and glide in EV mode. You can also creast smaller hills with more powerful battery. It comes handy when you know you can glide further and don't want to bother ICE from starting.